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13th February 07, 04:30 AM
#31
Jewish Legion
Originally Posted by gilmore
That is an interesting article. Do we know if the Jewish Legion ever wore kilts as part of its uniforms?
No. The Jewish Legion was attached to an English regiment, the Royal Fusiliers. It's a fascinating story, but it really has nothing to do with Highland kit.
btw, the Colonel of the Jewish Legion: John Henry Patterson, DSO -- the man who shot the "man-eaters" of Tsavo.
http://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/comment/legion.htm
Regards,
Todd
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15th February 07, 01:27 PM
#32
I remember meeting a Jewish gentleman from the Hebrides a long time ago. I think he referred to himself as 'the Jew from Jura' at one point (it was a pretty long evening and we were both roaring drunk...
Any roads, his name was McSporran and in his irereverent attitude he was more like me than I am!
there's a Singh tartan (it's beautiful) - so get oot yer box of crayons and design yer own -it will have every bit as much authenticity as any other 'name' tartan!
I have had good luck with the 'tartan generator' software.
Shalom/Slainte/good luck
Rob
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20th February 07, 01:37 PM
#33
Originally Posted by kiltykiltycauldbum
there's a Singh tartan (it's beautiful) - so get oot yer box of crayons and design yer own -it will have every bit as much authenticity as any other 'name' tartan!
There is indeed and I saw a Sikh gentleman in a tourist shop in Princes St, Edinburgh, wearing it as a turban! I gather he did have a kilt in it but had sold it though.
I'm slightly more tempted to do something with the one I designed, having got a quote from the Celtic Craft Centre that was £150 cheaper than the previous one.
[B][COLOR="Red"][SIZE="1"]Reverend Earl Trefor the Sublunary of Kesslington under Ox, Venerable Lord Trefor the Unhyphenated of Much Bottom, Sir Trefor the Corpulent of Leighton in the Bucket, Viscount Mcclef the Portable of Kirkby Overblow.
Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
(Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Cornwall, Isle of Man and Brittany forever - united in the Kilts!)[/SIZE][/COLOR][/B]
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20th February 07, 08:59 PM
#34
HISTORY or HOLLYWOOD? (Almost certainly the latter)
Seeing "The Ten Commandments" some years ago, I remember one of the plot devices was a piece of distinctively striped cloth, wrapping the infant Moses in his basket which was set upon the river and found by Pharaoh's daughter. After growing up as her son, he was revealed to be a Hebrew because of this particular cloth; in fact I believe the story was that it was a design of one particular tribe of Israel.
Now, is there any historic basis for particular cloth design identifying tribes of Israel? I know there are prayer shawls and such with striped designs. Even if the cloth had stripes only one way, when woven both ways that would create a tartan, or a basis for further refinement of the design.
Though the "Moses Tartan'' is surely only a figment of Hollywood imagination, it could still be made into a tartan. Many of the present clan tartans, derived from the 'Vestiarium Scoticum', have no more legitimacy than that.
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20th February 07, 09:41 PM
#35
...did you mean something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B000EACDNS
...this is a simple one...an internet search will turn up lots of very decorative Tallit...so decorative that who needs tartan?
Best
AA
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22nd February 07, 08:49 PM
#36
Originally Posted by Erisianmonkey
I'll take a quick shot at it. I hope you don't mind if I go for a lighter blue to look more like the blue on the flag.
Edit: Here's a shot at it. Clickable thumbnail:
Dang, I'd wear that tartan just as it is any day. I love the nix of blue and khaki!
Jim Killman
Writer, Philosopher, Teacher of English and Math, Soldier of Fortune, Bon Vivant, Heart Transplant Recipient, Knight of St. Andrew (among other knighthoods)
Freedom is not free, but the US Marine Corps will pay most of your share.
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22nd February 07, 10:41 PM
#37
Interesting theory about the tallitot, but as far as I know, there is really nothing there as far as tribes go. The closest you might get would be Sephardic vs. Ashkenazi, and even then, it's more of a propensity for coloured tallitot rather than the white/cream that most people are familiar with.
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6th March 07, 09:53 AM
#38
Originally Posted by Erisianmonkey
Hmm, color scheme for a Jewish Tartan. White for the lamb's wool of traditional sacrifices, black for the captivity in Egypt and the Holocaust, red for the blood on the door posts at passover, brown for the sands of the desert wilderness they wandered in for 40 years, and gold for the menorah at Chanukah?
A quick trip to House of Tartan's interactive weaver and I came up with this:
Edit- The wide red stripe should be brown!
Hey, I got the clickable thing right. DISCLAIMER: I am not an expert tartan designer nor expert on Jewish history and culture. The colors selected were just what immediately sprang to mind.
thats a pretty B.A. Tartan, i might get one
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6th March 07, 10:40 AM
#39
MacShapiro
Well, since nobody seems to have mentioned it, I bring you the MacShapiro tartan.
...with matching yarmulke, no less.
Here's the perpetrator.
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6th March 07, 10:47 AM
#40
And Tuvan throat singing to boot! How wild is that?
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