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    New contemporary kilt maker

    So I went the the small celtic event in Cincinnati that I mentioned yesterday. For the record counting me and my 15 month old son, there were three partons in kilts (I saw 5 other guys, but they were all involved with the event somehow).

    However, at one of the booths, there was a guy wearing a kilt that I thought was an Amerikilt. Now I own several UK's and a PK and have an RK that should be here any minute (where is that post man, arrrrrrrrrgh, oh wait the mail doesn't come on Sundays, who's stupid idea was that, where is my kilt). Additionally, I have seen an FK and a Neo kilt (as well as several TFCKs), but I have never acutally seen an Amerikilt in person. It turns out that the shop he works in has just started making these kilts. http://www.celticcornerstore.com
    They are a little different than most contemporaries, but basically think of a FK in look, but with out all the apron snaps. Instead it is held on by snaps on the waist (kind of like a PK, but real snaps hidden instead of hooks) under the belt. finally it has a cloth sporran much like an AK, that is detachable. He said they start at $125, and they look well made (didn't get a close look since he was behind a table/booth thing.). There are no pics on their web site yet, and since it was busy (and the wife had the camera) I didn't get a shot. However, I did tell the guy about X-marks, so hopefully he'll stop by. He also told me that the local Caledonian society has a monthly kilt night at a pub (it's never on their web site, but maybe I can get in the loop for that as well, and get a few new Cincy members).


    Adam

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    I've been very curious about this. I just finished talking to the lady that is producing these and she is a charming women with a great accent. She will be returning to Scotland for two weeks on Wednesday so she will not be able to respond for a while. I took this chance to ask all the questions I thought you guys might want to know.

    Material: Heavy Synthetic. She described it as very heavy and stiff.

    Pleats: Sewn down to the hip (about 7") and sewn down the edge the rest of the way. Approximately 15 or so pleats. These are 4 yard kilts.

    Current colors are Black and Tan but will do them in whatever color she can get. She's open to doing 5 and 8 yard kilts for a nominal charge.

    They include an optional Embroidered Celtic Knot Dragon on the apron where the kilt pin would be.

    6 belt loops to accommodate a 2.25" kilt belt. Each loop has a D-ring on it and some will have D-rings at top and bottom.

    Snap fasteners at the waist with 1 or 2 extra for adjustment.

    Produced based on your Waist/Hip/Length measurements.

    Hemmed bottom edge, No Fringe vertical edge. Apron is tapered.

    No Lining.

    Possible matching cloth sporran but this is not standard and I got th idea it was a project in development.

    The price Adam mentioned is for waist sizes up to 44". Larger will of course incur additional cost.

    They have been making them on a demand basis so there will be some wait to get these. They are working on getting the kilts on there web site, so hopefully there will be more detailed information soon.

    Hope that helps.

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    hmmm i just checked out thier website. In the top right hand corner above the shoes,and bagpipes on their header..

    This may be petty but if its a Celtic Shop.. why do they have the "English flag/Flag of England... (FKA Flag of St. George)" and a flag of Northern Ireland ? I thought Northern Ireland is Part of Ireland.. a Celtic Nation... England is not a Celtic Nation. I actually had to explain this to someone today at work.. because i had a printout of the flags of the Seven Nations and someone asked where the english flag was... I gave a brief history lesson as she was asking about the Union Jack/Flag of Great Britian.

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    Northern Ireland is on the island of Ireland but part of the United Kingdom Mexpiper. It's not the place here to go into the history of how it came about but just a couple of general observations...

    The flag isn't just Northern Ireland but the flag of the Province of Ulster. The historical Province has nine counties but six of them are in the UK and three of them are in the Irish Republic. Although the flag is used for the Six Counties it actually represents nine counties.

    Although England isn't Celtic as such there are fringes - they have probably assumed (as most people do) that Cornwall is in England for example. There are also places in England that used to be in Scotland, such as Berwick upon Tweed, and places in Wales that used to be in England such as Monmouthshire. Also England isn't a complete desert in terms of things Celtic, there are some English tartans even and quite a few pipe and drum bands whose members may not have a Celtic ancestry.
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    The flag isn't just Northern Ireland but the flag of the Province of Ulster. The historical Province has nine counties but six of them are in the UK and three of them are in the Irish Republic. Although the flag is used for the Six Counties it actually represents nine counties.
    Also, it should be pointed out that there are two different Ulster flags; one representing Northern Ireland (although no longer officially), which is part of the UK (6 counties), and the other a historic flag of the Ulster, which combines the symbols of the O'Neill's and de Burgos families; the latter represents the historic 9 counties of Ulster.

    See Vincent Morley's "Flags of Ireland" page for more information:

    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Sparta/1648/flags.htm

    Although England isn't Celtic as such there are fringes - they have probably assumed (as most people do) that Cornwall is in England for example. There are also places in England that used to be in Scotland, such as Berwick upon Tweed, and places in Wales that used to be in England such as Monmouthshire. Also England isn't a complete desert in terms of things Celtic, there are some English tartans even and quite a few pipe and drum bands whose members may not have a Celtic ancestry.
    And, don't forget Northumberland and the Borders, although Northumberland does have it's own flag.

    I thought Northern Ireland is Part of Ireland.. a Celtic Nation... England is not a Celtic Nation. I actually had to explain this to someone today at work.. because i had a printout of the flags of the Seven Nations and someone asked where the english flag was... I gave a brief history lesson as she was asking about the Union Jack/Flag of Great Britian.
    Northern Ireland does have a distinct culture seperate from the South; see:

    http://www.ulsterscotsagency.com/home.asp

    Regards,

    Todd
    Last edited by macwilkin; 13th March 07 at 03:42 AM.

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    Interesting history lesson, and that sounds like it could be a nice kilt. Hope they get pictures up soon
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