Simple,as possible, kilt

[Richard_D]

Hi guys. A small question has made me and my friends wonder.
Some who may know or remember I sometimes mentioned live action roleplaying, that would take place in so-called medieval Scotland.

We are just the halfway finished with our gear (swords, shirts shields, "backpacks" etc.) and now we are planning on making kilts. We found two diffrent colour themed, allmost tartan looking fabric that we are going to use to make the kilts ("two diffrent clans"). But here comes the problem. There is 42 of us now and we are looking for the most simple way of doing kilts. Any suggestion. I myself have made X-kilt to myself and if there is something more simple than that I would really appreciate to hear it.

We ones wathced the movie "Highlander" and it seemed that the kilts they used didnt have any pleats or stuff like that. Did we see wrong or was it just that the movie clothing makers got lazy . Any info on this?

Thank you and have a nice day

[chasem]

I haven't seen the movie (I know I know...) but the simplest way to do it would be to wrap it up like a great kilt. Lay 4 yards of double width fabric out, leave space on either end for two aprons, pleat it, and belt it on.

[M. A. C. Newsome]

I don't know if you are trying to be historically accurate in your clothing or not, but there were no kilts in medieval Scotland. What you saw in Highlander was a Hollywood costumer's interpretation of the feilidh-mhor (aka breacan-feile or belted plaid, or "great kilt"). This is the earliest form of kilt that cannot be documented any earlier than the very end of the sixteenth century (1594) and was common during the seventeenth century and the first half of the eighteenth.

So, for something set in the Middle Ages, this would be quite anachronistic.

See this article to get a good time line of the development of the kilt:
http://albanach.org/generations.html

And more specifically on the feilidh-mhor:
http://albanach.org/kilt.html

Further reading:
http://www.reconstructinghistory.com...=&g=&a=134&w=2

And a great website for accurate information on Medieval Scotland:
http://www.medievalscotland.org/

[escherblacksmith]

yeah, what he said. Really depends on how accurate you are trying to get.

More likely it would been the leine (or a variation), which is a big shirt over hose. Then you wear cloaks as necessary.

That said, Chasem has the easiest solution.

[Richard_D]

We are not for historical accuracy basicly. Allmost. I know kilts didnt excist in medieval but we only want to wear them because of the fact that we play scotsmen. Well some are irish but still. I believe something will be made out of these instructions, thank you very much.

And by the way, can you give an honest opinion on this "kilt" sold near me ... I thought about buing it for work.
http://www.stuntman.fi/htm/tuotteet/darkness/kd008.jpg

Chears!

[ccga3359]

We are not for historical accuracy basicly. Allmost. I know kilts didnt excist in medieval but we only want to wear them because of the fact that we play scotsmen. Well some are irish but still. I believe something will be made out of these instructions, thank you very much.

And by the way, can you give an honest opinion on this "kilt" sold near me ... I thought about buing it for work.
http://www.stuntman.fi/htm/tuotteet/darkness/kd008.jpg

Chears!

Going by the picture and unless the pic is reversed, this is a womens kilted skirt. A man's kilt closes on the right hip. At €60, I think you do have alternate options that you could investigate. Where are you located Richard?

[Richard_D]

Going by the picture and unless the pic is reversed, this is a womens kilted skirt. A man's kilt closes on the right hip. At €60, I think you do have alternate options that you could investigate. Where are you located Richard?

I currently live in Finland and now I am located at our countrys capital Helsinki. For what I know that kilt is basicly " casual" type. It should have all those... was it pleats in english. Sorry my awfull english. Slept most of the time in class .
You have any idea on another shop?

[ccga3359]

I currently live in Finland and now I am located at our countrys capital Helsinki. For what I know that kilt is basicly " casual" type. It should have all those... was it pleats in english. Sorry my awfull english. Slept most of the time in class .
You have any idea on another shop?

Try Stillwater Kilts. I'm thinking that 1 Euro is roughly $2 US so a Stillwater "Standard" is roughly 40 euros plus shipping. Pehaps some of our UK rabble* can suggest something closer.
And


*Rabble is any X mark the scot member.

[Richard_D]

Try Stillwater Kilts. I'm thinking that 1 Euro is roughly $2 US so a Stillwater "Standard" is roughly 40 euros plus shipping. Pehaps some of our UK rabble* can suggest something closer.
And


*Rabble is any X mark the scot member.

Thanks for the link, great looking kilts they have. The only problem is that if I order outside Europe the postage will be quite expensive and there will be tax to it. Which is 22% more to the price.

So is there any European kiltt makers in the same price scale? I have only managed to find the most expensive ones...Kilts from 100£- 700£

[Arlen]

You can order decent quality kilts on ebay.co.uk.
Here are a few kilts that are available in the U.K with fairly cheap shipping to Europe. They are all Men's kilts and all fairly decent quality. All are around 50 euros (60-70 euros including shipping)
Scottish national tartan (I quite like this one)

Heritage of Scotland tartan

Douglas tartan

Mackenzie Tartan

Blackwatch tartan


This one is a set... kilt, belt and sporran for around 100 euros including shipping.


Good luck getting a kilt to suit you.

As far as the LARP is concerned, you might be best bringing it forward just a century. That way you can still have a lot of the medieval weaponry and ideas, but you're starting to get kilts and a clan system going.