I will still buy from the sponsors in this forum. I really appreciate the effort that each kiltmaker puts into each kilt . I just wanted to know how to make a mini-kilt so that I could make one for myself in a fabric that none of these kiltmakers would. I never dreamed of depriving the sponsors of business, but I didn't think that it was doing any harm by me making something for myself that they couldn't offer. I really wanted a pleather mini-kilt and because no one would make one, Alan H. just offered to help me learn to make one myself. No harm was ever intended.