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18th May 07, 09:05 AM
#11
MacWage,
There are two issues here.
The first, is the question are kilts casual dress only? This is simply answered by showing your father these two threads:
Formal Pictures
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=22433
Dressy Pictures
http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=22432
The second question is are kilted outfits appropriate for your business?
I am not sure what type of work you and your father do. It may be that it isn't. People in business for themselves have to work awfully hard and put a lot of themselves into what they do. This is something that the two of you will have to work out.
Best of luck
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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18th May 07, 10:30 AM
#12
I was at a restaurant in Roswell last night in my IOS, oatmeal hose, plain black shoes, flashes, khaki short-sleeve shirt with epaulets, and khaki beret. Pretty sharp outfit I thought, though no jacket and tie. this guy comes up and askes about the tartan and tells me his clan, then goes on and on about how he NEVER wears his kilt casually. Must have said it 3 times. I felt like replying that I was sorry for his loss, but I bit it back and smiled glassily.
His SO was with him and kept eyeing me up and down and allowing as how she thought it looked pretty good.
It's just funny how even those with kilts can cop an attitude if how you choose to wear it doesn't comport with their "kiltanshaung".
turpin
Convener, Georgia Chapter, House of Gordon (Boss H.O.G.)
Where 4 Scotsmen gather there'll usually be a fifth.
7/5 of the world's population have a difficult time with fractions.
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18th May 07, 10:44 AM
#13
My cardinal rule is to never work for or with a family member. Ever.
Good Luck.
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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18th May 07, 11:19 AM
#14
Originally Posted by turpin
this guy comes up and askes about the tartan and tells me his clan, then goes on and on about how he NEVER wears his kilt casually. Must have said it 3 times. I felt like replying that I was sorry for his loss, but I bit it back and smiled glassily.
turpin
Now the really rotten thing to do would have been to say "Oh, wow...yeah...y'know, I just bought a kilt on ebay that came from the estate of some guy who must have only worn it for special occaisions...it was practically new and I got it for next to nothing. Keep up the good work and you'll make somebody very happy some day."
Didn't I say rotten? ...but only if the guy had been REALLY obnoxious and really ticked you off...
Best
AA
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18th May 07, 11:28 AM
#15
Gents,
This is a bit of a double-edged sword, though, since finding fault with him for wearing a kilt for only special occasions is just as bad as he finding fault with you for wearing them casually. Different horses for courses...
Be happy you met a fellow kilt-wearer, regardless of when or where he wears it.
T.
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19th May 07, 08:24 AM
#16
As a number of other members have stated, I viewed kilts as formal for years. I was raised with the view that kilts were expected to be worn to weddings, funerals, pipe band functions, Burns Nights, etc, & were just acceptable at a Highland games (if you were not competing). It took me ages to even risk a ghillie shirt. Now I've gotten comfortable with the casual look enough to be basically full-time kilted (extremely windy days still see me in denim, usually. No point answering THAT question for them!) However, I still think that nothing looks as sharp, neat, or respectable as full formal rig, & even those with no military training seem to aquire a military bearing when in a tank & PC.
Tell your Dad to look at pics of British or Commonwealth formal military dine-outs (a decidedly formal affair) or the same countries military funerals. That may just help to change his mind. Good luck!
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19th May 07, 08:57 AM
#17
What business are you in John? A formal kilt attire I think would be overkill for any business situation. There are option such as tweeds, they definately scream not-casual and I think are perfect business attire.
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19th May 07, 10:44 AM
#18
I now have in addition to my 2UK's a Royal Stewart that my wife purchased for me.I find that the UK's tend to lend themselves to a more casual environment,while the tartan looks lots more dressy.I do wear both styles in all situations mainly because I am comfortable.If it bothers anyone else,they can pound sand.It's all about me.
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19th May 07, 11:18 AM
#19
It certainly is an "odd" point of view on kilts.
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19th May 07, 11:44 AM
#20
maybe it's because of the somewhat masculine and rugged image that kilts tend to lend to the wearer (especially with heavier boots)? Just guessing.
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