Is X Marks the Scot a Clan?

**Mael Coluim** · 20th August 07, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by davedove

I like that. But we can yell it if we want to, right?

Right, Dave!
How could we deny our heritage and the famed yell of the Highland Charge! Jim Webb, in his book, Born Fighting (an account of the Scots-Irish contribution to the building of the USA) states the Rebel Yell of the Confederate forces in the War Between The States was southern Scots -Irish descendants using an adopted Highland Charge yell.

But yes, it toasting to FREEDOM with a wee dram the quieter cry would be appropriate.

**macwilkin** · 20th August 07, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by emalcolmjr

Right, Dave!
How could we deny our heritage and the famed yell of the Highland Charge! Jim Webb, in his book, Born Fighting (an account of the Scots-Irish contribution to the building of the USA) states the Rebel Yell of the Confederate forces in the War Between The States was southern Scots -Irish descendants using an adopted Highland Charge yell.

But yes, it toasting to FREEDOM with a wee dram the quieter cry would be appropriate.

Hmm...I wouldn't put too much stock in that story. The Ulster-Scots, most Lowlanders in origin, rarely adopted anything from the "Wild Highlanders". The former viewed the latter much like they did their Native American opponents on the frontier.

The late historian Grady McWhiney proposed the same theory in his book Attack and Die: Civil War Military Tactics and the Southern Hertiage. McWhiney and others propose that the Confederate soldier was somehow the heir apparent of the Jacobite clansman at Culloden, yet fail to mention that many Scots and Ulster Scots and their descendants fought for the North.

Webb's book is more personal observation; I recommend Leyburn's The Scotch-Irish: a social history for a more reliable examination of the Scots-Irish in early America. Celeste Ray's Highland Heritage also examines the "connection" between the Scots and the Southerner, and takes a more critical look at McWhiney's theories.

Regards,

Todd

**Mael Coluim** · 20th August 07, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by cajunscot

Hmm...I wouldn't put too much stock in that story. The Ulster-Scots, most Lowlanders in origin, rarely adopted anything from the "Wild Highlanders". The former viewed the latter much like they did their Native American opponents on the frontier.

The late historian Grady McWhiney proposed the same theory in his book Attack and Die: Civil War Military Tactics and the Southern Hertiage. McWhiney and others propose that the Confederate soldier was somehow the heir apparent of the Jacobite clansman at Culloden, yet fail to mention that many Scots and Ulster Scots and their descendants fought for the North.

Webb's book is more personal observation; I recommend Leyburn's The Scotch-Irish: a social history for a more reliable examination of the Scots-Irish in early America. Celeste Ray's Highland Heritage also examines the "connection" between the Scots and the Southerner, and takes a more critical look at McWhiney's theories.

Regards,

Todd

Thanks, Todd for your information. I'll definitely put Leyland's book on my to read list. That's the sad part of Civil War; brother against brother.