Most comfortable kilt? At any price.

[MacWage]

What I didn't way before (which was more focused on temps):
The box pleat kilts are more balanced from to back than the other styles (which tend to vary more on material, material weight, and where they hang.

In a box pleat, half the material is in the front and half is in the back. The box pleating works somewhat like a mild anchor, as the under cut of one pleat pulls AGAINST the one next to it (the "swish" of a knife pleat is the same action that allows fairly easy wind expansion, as it expands like an accordian).

I could go on and on, but there are MANY threads on the advantages of box pleats vs. advantages of knife pleats.

I just like how box pleats "feel" when worn.

[creativeaccents]

Thanks Bill. I did look at the USAK Casual and it is indeed a FINE looking product with some of the features I am seeking. However, probably what I am after would be heresy to many and not even a kilt by others. For myself, comfort would mean somewhat lower on the waist, at the same level of conventional shorts..about four to five inches below the belly button. Too, especially here, a more "pants like" belt loop setup with at least seven loops, but for a belt of about 1 1/2 inch. The length would come to a point at the top of the knee. As many have pointed out here, suffcient very light fabric to allow for plenty of movement, ease of sitting, and coverage when sitting. Even the banding around the waist would be thinner from top to bottom (maybe 1 3/4), but sufficiently thick to not roll over at the intersection of belly and waist and to support a thinner belt. This wouldn't be just a wrap around, but a combination of panels designed with comfort and style appeal in themselves with no need of sporran, brass brads, or pockets in front or back, but two vent pockets on the side. Sorry if any find this offensive in any way. I DO wish I knew the rudiments of developing such a pattern and enough about construction and sewing to develop an assembly that would best reflect the tricks of the trade in achieving a balance of style and common sense construction of such as I am sure that to work this would require the right combination of the right pleat style and panel construction to fit the rear and hips while still having a smooth flow of the fabric when walking and working.

[Riverkilt]

My humble, or not so humble opinion, is my Utilikilts blue denim original - now well worn and very soft.

In colder weather my Utilikilt brown leather, feels like a well broken in baseball glove (Same with my RKilt leather when I fit it).

And also my USA Kilts semi-traditionals are more comfy for me than the casual because I wear them without a belt...that gives my beer belly more comfort. My Freedom Kilt dress model would fit in there too.

Ron

[Kid Cossack]

Sorry if any find this offensive in any way.

Yep, he's a heretic, let's BURN HIM!


He he. Nah, that's not how I feel at all. I think your ideas are sound, you're just looking for your interpretation of the "ultimate kilt." Now I've gotten used to a high-ride kilt (or a higher ride kilt at least), but aside from that I like what you're thinking of.

I've discovered as I've gotten older that I carry more "stuff" around than I used to. I've got more credit cards and ID cards and "access this" cards, and a cell phone. I've discovered I like having a sporran to stuff all that stuff into.

Hey, what about a UK Mocker? That's the closest thing I can think of to what you're asking abot.

[Mark Keeney]

snip...I DO wish I knew the rudiments of developing such a pattern and enough about construction and sewing to develop an assembly that would best reflect the tricks of the trade in achieving a balance of style and common sense construction of such as I am sure that to work this would require the right combination of the right pleat style and panel construction to fit the rear and hips while still having a smooth flow of the fabric when walking and working.

Ever consider making an x-Kilt? Designed by Alan H. http://www.modelautoracing.com/kilt/X-Kilt_final2.pdf

Word of caution, while lighter weight fabrics are cooler they also have a tendancy to fly up and scare children. My mocker will do that. I prefer the Uk original because the pockets help hold down the pleats. I do live in a city and big buildings create strange wind patterns.

[Perldog007]

Ever consider making an x-Kilt? Designed by Alan H. http://www.modelautoracing.com/kilt/X-Kilt_final2.pdf

Word of caution, while lighter weight fabrics are cooler they also have a tendancy to fly up and scare children. My mocker will do that. I prefer the Uk original because the pockets help hold down the pleats. I do live in a city and big buildings create strange wind patterns.

Here Here!

My kollection is detailed in my signature. In my limited experience, the FK is tops in comfort. Mine is the cargo model with all of the pockets.

My self - made kilts are also comfy, but not as presentable as the FK.

None are uncomfortable. It is all degrees of comfort.

[Colin]

Thanks Bill. I did look at the USAK Casual and it is indeed a FINE looking product with some of the features I am seeking. However, probably what I am after would be heresy to many and not even a kilt by others. For myself, comfort would mean somewhat lower on the waist, at the same level of conventional shorts..about four to five inches below the belly button. Too, especially here, a more "pants like" belt loop setup with at least seven loops, but for a belt of about 1 1/2 inch. The length would come to a point at the top of the knee. As many have pointed out here, suffcient very light fabric to allow for plenty of movement, ease of sitting, and coverage when sitting. Even the banding around the waist would be thinner from top to bottom (maybe 1 3/4), but sufficiently thick to not roll over at the intersection of belly and waist and to support a thinner belt. This wouldn't be just a wrap around, but a combination of panels designed with comfort and style appeal in themselves with no need of sporran, brass brads, or pockets in front or back, but two vent pockets on the side. Sorry if any find this offensive in any way. I DO wish I knew the rudiments of developing such a pattern and enough about construction and sewing to develop an assembly that would best reflect the tricks of the trade in achieving a balance of style and common sense construction of such as I am sure that to work this would require the right combination of the right pleat style and panel construction to fit the rear and hips while still having a smooth flow of the fabric when walking and working.

Have you checked out the industrial model from Freedom kilts? It sound slike it would certainly fit the bill based on your comments. I have also heard that Steve's kilts are very comfortable. http://www.freedomkilts.com/store/kilt/model