Bad girls find out for themselves!

**Azevedo** · 29th August 07, 01:27 PM

I was in a heavy metal pub in Belgium, wearing my black kilt, with some friends and was my time to get the beers. I went to the bar and a woman, around 40, say something to me in dutch, I replayed that i do not speak ducth. She make a signal to me to turn around. So I did. I was expecting her to look at the pleats or something like that. To my surprise I felt her hand in my butt, grab the textile then pushing... She felt my underwear and looked at me desapointed... :S I was surprised, but in the end I was not upset as I was with the girl that asked me why I was wearing a skirt, a couple of hours before...

Also people usualy get really desapointed when I replay to the question with a "yes, Im using underwear". But know I think the question very unpolite and now I answer "Do you want to see"?

**CelticRanger66** · 29th August 07, 05:21 PM

Thats ok last christmas I was at a Church sponsered gathering and a elderly nun patted me on my behind and annnounced " so you are a true scotsman!" I just retreated because frankly I for once was speechless!!! Its best to just move on...

**ccga3359** · 29th August 07, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by CelticRanger66

Thats ok last christmas I was at a Church sponsered gathering and a elderly nun patted me on my behind and annnounced " so you are a true scotsman!" I just retreated because frankly I for once was speechless!!! Its best to just move on...

You're going to hell!

**ardchoille** · 29th August 07, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by CelticRanger66

Thats ok last christmas I was at a Church sponsered gathering and a elderly nun patted me on my behind and annnounced " so you are a true scotsman!" I just retreated because frankly I for once was speechless!!! Its best to just move on...

Did you say she was an elderly nun?

**Alan H** · 29th August 07, 05:49 PM

Honestly, if a woman OR a man just grabs, that's reason enough to take careful aim and break their nose, if you ask me. I wouldn't hesitate to do it, either.....and kilt and cordiality and gentlemanliness be damned. There's basic decency, too.

She knew you didn't speak Dutch, and yet she decided that HER interest in what might or might not be under your kilt was more important than YOUR preferences regarding your privacy. If you'd walked up to her and spoken to her in Russian, and she didn't understand Russian, so you just groped her ther ein public in the bar, would you be surprised if she laid her hand across your face as hard as she possibly could?

no.

"The Question" is one thing. Teasing is one thing. ASKING and then going for it when you receive a "yes" answer is entirely fine. This is totally different.

**ardchoille** · 29th August 07, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Alan H

Honestly, if a woman OR a man just grabs, that's reason enough to take careful aim and break their nose, if you ask me. I wouldn't hesitate to do it, either.....and kilt and cordiality and gentlemanliness be damned. There's basic decency, too.

She knew you didn't speak Dutch, and yet she decided that HER interest in what might or might not be under your kilt was more important than YOUR preferences regarding your privacy. If you'd walked up to her and spoken to her in Russian, and she didn't understand Russian, so you just groped her ther ein public in the bar, would you be surprised if she laid her hand across your face as hard as she possibly could?

no.

"The Question" is one thing. Teasing is one thing. ASKING and then going for it when you receive a "yes" answer is entirely fine. This is totally different.

I agree.. and if you want to get technical, what they did can be litigated as sexual assault or assault and battery. I think self defence would be warranted here.

**Alan H** · 29th August 07, 06:02 PM

There's also the very real issue of whether the woman in question needs to learn a lesson in simple decency. The fact that, totally sober, she'd grope a man in public suggests that somewhere along the line, she didn't learn a couple of very simple lessons in human relations.

Giving her a lesson in those basics is in fact, doing her a favor.

**morrison** · 29th August 07, 06:40 PM

I'm probably extraverted and controverted and

reverted and perverted and downright demented, but sometimes I'll take all the attention I can get!

**Casper** · 30th August 07, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by morrison

I'm probably extraverted and controverted and

reverted and perverted and downright demented, but sometimes I'll take all the attention I can get!

Hear, hear!

I find it odd... all of the times people here get incredibly mad when someone either asks the question, or performs an impromptu check. All of the talk of rude comments to people, or popping them in the nose, just baffles me.

I'm fine with either... question, or kilt check. Maybe i'm just a bit of a manwhore like that, as its only women that do it... either way, I couldn't be bothered to be upset about it.

a) Female attention is never unwanted
b) I realise that i'm dressed against the norm, so I can expect odd reactions

You could go on about privacy, decency, manners, etc... but, to quote myself, "Morality Is Subjective".

My 2c....

**Captain** · 30th August 07, 12:30 PM

Well here's where I land on this... as if it really matters...

A guy would definitely get popped... That's just completely unwarranted and very unwanted, at least by me. It's completely unacceptable and it does deserve retaliation.

A gal? Well, I tend not to hang out in places that this would be encouraged or acceptable behavior because I'm married and I respect that bond and commitment. Were to happen any way I don't know that I would be angry, but I would definitely be speechless and would feel a good deal violated as I'm a fairly private person... Yes I am an extrovert and "rebellious" according to some standards, but I still maintain a distinct separation between my outer facade and my private life. Of course, knowing me, what I'd probably end up doing to teach the woman would be to respond in kind... I'd take my slap and, were the wife around, call my buddy Frank and let him know I'm staying over for a while... I'm a fairly quid pro quo kind of guy... and a slap or punch just wouldn't teach a woman what she really needed to know in that situation, and I've only ever hit one woman as that was just the way I was raised (the one situation was actually self defense) And yes, I'd probably return the favor to an elderly nun too... Hey, she started it, and I'm sure she could use a pat on the butt!