De-Anglicisation of Names

[slohairt]

if you feel up to it...

West or Billingsley

Dia Dhuit, Mystic Mead,

Billingsley: As in Barbara Billingsley? Definitely Anglo-Saxon and topographical in origin. Ley (or Leigh) means "field" or "meadow." So, we have Billing's Field. (Whoever Billing was). A Gaelic transliteration would be de Billínslidh (pronounced DE BILL-EENS-LEE).

West: Obvious meaning, "one who is from the West." Iarthar (pronounced EE-UR-HAR) is the Irish word for "west." Iartharach (EE-UR-HAR-AKH) means "westerner." Two pseudo-patronymic could be created: Mac an tIarthair meaning "son of the West" (MAC AN TEE-UR-HER), or Mac an tIartharaigh "son of the westerner" (MAC AN TEE-UR-HAR-EE).

[The Wizard of BC]

It's been a lot of fun reading through this thread. Thank you.

And just because no one has brought it up we have an X Marks Clan motto that needs turning into something that is a transliteration to Gaelic.

Give this a go

"By Choice, Not Blood".

or simply

"By Choice".

[slohairt]

It's been a lot of fun reading through this thread. Thank you.

And just because no one has brought it up we have an X Marks Clan motto that needs turning into something that is a transliteration to Gaelic.

Give this a go

"By Choice, Not Blood".

or simply

"By Choice".

In my opinion, a Gaelic translation (both Irish and Scottish) would be "Leis an dTogha, Chan Fuil" (pronounced LESH AN DOY-A KHAN FWIL) or simply, "Leis an dTogha."

[Shriner]

slohairt,

I looked thourgh all 16 pages of posts and did not see Morgan or Miller.

My father was Harry Miller

My mother's father was John Cecil Morgan

Can you do these, THANK YOU

John Morgan Miller

[slohairt]

slohairt,

I looked thourgh all 16 pages of posts and did not see Morgan or Miller.

My father was Harry Miller

My mother's father was John Cecil Morgan

Can you do these, THANK YOU

John Morgan Miller

Dia Dhuit, Shriner,

MILLER (also Millar): Miller is one of the top ten surnames of Scotland and enormously popular in England as well. Millar seems to be found in higher numbers in Scotland. The meaning is quite obvious: "one who mills." A Gaelic translation would be Mac an Muilleoir (pronounced MAC AN MWILL-YORE) meaning son of the miller.

MORGAN: Morgan is most often Welsh or Scottish. Either way, it is of Celtic origin and means "sea bright" (?) In Welsh, it was originally Ap Morgan meaning son of Morgan. (Ap corresponds to Gaelic mac.) In Scotland, the progenitor of Clan MacKay (Clann Mhic Aoidh) is Morgan, son of Magnus. The clan MacKay is known as Siol Mhorgain meaning the race of Morgan.

[kevinkinney]

An excellent read. Thanks for the thread.

My Paternal Grandmother was a Douglas, and proudly so.
My paternal Grandfather was Sheldon Kinney. We've always attributed it to a change from McKinney upon arrival in the new world in the 1600's, but have never found a link in the historical record to a clan or sept. Best guess was Mackenzie...

Cheers,

Kevin.

[slohairt]

An excellent read. Thanks for the thread.

My Paternal Grandmother was a Douglas, and proudly so.
My paternal Grandfather was Sheldon Kinney. We've always attributed it to a change from McKinney upon arrival in the new world in the 1600's, but have never found a link in the historical record to a clan or sept. Best guess was Mackenzie...

Cheers,

Kevin.

Hoigh, Caoimhin Mac Coinnich!

DOUGLAS: Topographical in origin, from the Gaelic Dubhghlas meaning "dark green." Pronounced DOO-GLASS.

KINNEY: Kinney, or MacKinney is indeed the same name as Mackenzie. Both anglicisations were originally the Gaelic Mac Coinnich (pronounced MAC KINN-EE) meaning son of Coinneach. As you can see, the (Mac)Kinney rendering is closer to the original Gaelic pronunciation. Incidentally, Mackenzie is not supposed to be pronounced with a "z" sound. Originally, Lallans had a letter that looked a bit like a "z" but was pronounced more like "y." As Lallans gave way to English, this was written as a "z" and later mispronounced as one.

[millar]

Thanks for the information. I had no idea we were that popular. By the way it should read MILLAR (also Miller) for some reason it's always the other way about.
Cheers,
Jim

MILLER (also Millar): Miller is one of the top ten surnames of Scotland and enormously popular in England as well. Millar seems to be found in higher numbers in Scotland. The meaning is quite obvious: "one who mills." A Gaelic translation would be Mac an Muilleoir (pronounced MAC AN MWILL-YORE) meaning son of the miller.

[MysticMead]

Dia Dhuit, Mystic Mead,

Billingsley: As in Barbara Billingsley? Definitely Anglo-Saxon and topographical in origin. Ley (or Leigh) means "field" or "meadow." So, we have Billing's Field. (Whoever Billing was). A Gaelic transliteration would be de Billínslidh (pronounced DE BILL-EENS-LEE).

West: Obvious meaning, "one who is from the West." Iarthar (pronounced EE-UR-HAR) is the Irish word for "west." Iartharach (EE-UR-HAR-AKH) means "westerner." Two pseudo-patronymic could be created: Mac an tIarthair meaning "son of the West" (MAC AN TEE-UR-HER), or Mac an tIartharaigh "son of the westerner" (MAC AN TEE-UR-HAR-EE).

yes.... as in Barbara Billingsley.... thanks for the Gaelic translations... I like them better