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30th August 07, 11:29 AM
#1
That is a very handsome shade of blue. Nice tartan.
Good story of the Rogers line also.
Tom
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30th August 07, 11:48 AM
#2
As a French & Indian War reenactor who used to be in a ranger unit, when I see the name Rogers, I of course instantly think of Rob't Rogers and his Rangers, along with the earthy greens, browns and grays of their garb when out on a scout.
The blue tartan just doesn't seem "right" to me when I think of the name "Rogers". Sorry...!
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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30th August 07, 12:33 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Woodsheal
As a French & Indian War reenactor who used to be in a ranger unit, when I see the name Rogers, I of course instantly think of Rob't Rogers and his Rangers, along with the earthy greens, browns and grays of their garb when out on a scout.
The blue tartan just doesn't seem "right" to me when I think of the name "Rogers". Sorry...!
Hey, thanks! Don't apologize -- that's the kind of feedback I need. Here is an example of what my first ideas for the tartan looked like:

Or

Much more of the dark earthtones of the ranger's garb. Perhaps I was on the right track the first time around!
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30th August 07, 01:51 PM
#4
Rogers DNA
Have you thought about testing your Y chromosome DNA? Men inherit it from our fathers, so it follows the surname (or vice versa) generally in modern times.
While it has been used as a tool for genealogical research widely for only 5-6 years and is still in its infancy, it might be helpful in cases like yours where you have hit a brick wall a few hundred years ago. It is no substitute for the certainty of a well-documented paper trail IMHO, but can tell you where it might be useful to look, and where it wouldn't, maybe more of the latter than the former. Family Tree DNA is the largest company doing DNA genealogical testing, has the largest databases and is thus more likely to be helpful. Here is there homepage: http://www.ftdna.com/ You might click on their FAQ if you are unfamiliar with genealogical DNA testing.
I see that there is a Rogers surname project https://www.familytreedna.com/surnam...&projecttype=S
as well as a smaller Rodgers surname project https://www.familytreedna.com/surnam...&projecttype=S
The former has members from 5 haplogroups, or unrelated lines, and a dozen or more other subclade groupings, so I would guess that you could hope to fit into one of those, share information with those folks, and be able to determine that the rest would not be useful to pursue.
If you join a surname project, FTDNA gives a discount. The prices start at $99 for a 12 marker test, up to $300 or so for the more precise 67 marker test. But to me was worth it, if like you and I, you have a not uncommon surname and have exhausted the paper trail.
You can also post your results here http://www.ysearch.org/ a helpful site that has a data base of Y chromosome results from all the various testing companies.
I would think that you could hope to at least determine with some certainty if your Rogers are descended from or are closely related to the Mayflower Rogerses, the Rogers Cromwell settled in Ireland, or the Elizabethan Border Rogerses, since it was far enough in the past that there are enough men around and interested in genealogy who can document their descent from those Rogers.
Last edited by gilmore; 30th August 07 at 02:10 PM.
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30th August 07, 02:30 PM
#5
 Originally Posted by arrScott
Hey, thanks! Don't apologize -- that's the kind of feedback I need. Here is an example of what my first ideas for the tartan looked like:
Or
Much more of the dark earthtones of the ranger's garb. Perhaps I was on the right track the first time around!
I like the 2nd one best. Ranger colors combined with flag colors (both US and Great Britain!)....
Brian
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin
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1st September 07, 01:05 PM
#6
You obviously like blue, a bit like Bell of the borders tartan. It seems to be a more modern trend whereas the older tartans were more greens and reds. Looks nice all the same. Don't suppose you're any relation to Roy then?
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1st September 07, 01:29 PM
#7
 Originally Posted by Phil
You obviously like blue, a bit like Bell of the borders tartan. It seems to be a more modern trend whereas the older tartans were more greens and reds. Looks nice all the same. Don't suppose you're any relation to Roy then?
I like green a lot too, but blue seemed the more appropriate emphasis color.
Funny you should ask about Roy Rogers -- as far as I know, I'm not related to the Roy Rogers. But Roy used to be a common name in my family, and my father, Jim, who was born in 1940, was due to be named Roy. Fortunately for my dad, Grandma Rogers put her foot down and insisted on waiting for the next boy in hopes that the movie star Roy Rogers faded away. He didn't, the next boys were named Joel, William, and David, and the name Roy has died out in my family.
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5th September 07, 07:09 AM
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Nice tartans. I like the first one you showed.
My grandmother was a Rogers, so I've enjoyed your history lessons.
Thanks.
 Originally Posted by arrScott
I like green a lot too, but blue seemed the more appropriate emphasis color.
Funny you should ask about Roy Rogers -- as far as I know, I'm not related to the Roy Rogers. But Roy used to be a common name in my family, and my father, Jim, who was born in 1940, was due to be named Roy. Fortunately for my dad, Grandma Rogers put her foot down and insisted on waiting for the next boy in hopes that the movie star Roy Rogers faded away. He didn't, the next boys were named Joel, William, and David, and the name Roy has died out in my family.
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4th September 07, 09:04 AM
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I like the designs, too.
 Originally Posted by Phil
Don't suppose you're any relation to Roy then?
<chortle> As arrScott could probably tell you, Roy's family name was Slye.
Ken Sallenger - apprentice kiltmaker, journeyman curmudgeon,
gainfully unemployed systems programmer
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30th August 07, 11:48 AM
#10
Bravo!
Very nice tartan. Had you seen the clergy tartan when you were designing it?
Btw, the photo I have in my profile was taken at the Highland Games in your town a year ago. I wonder if we might have passed one another there.
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