Bad girls find out for themselves!

[porrick]

There's also the very real issue of whether the woman in question needs to learn a lesson in simple decency. The fact that, totally sober, she'd grope a man in public suggests that somewhere along the line, she didn't learn a couple of very simple lessons in human relations.

Giving her a lesson in those basics is in fact, doing her a favor.

I agree with you, Alan. Just don't let the lesson consist of punching her nose. That would sort of speak against "didn't learn a couple of very simple lessons in human relations"

[porrick]

I'm probably extraverted and controverted and reverted and perverted and downright demented, but sometimes I'll take all the attention I can get!

One man's dream is another man's night-mare...

[Raphael]

Hear, hear!

I find it odd... all of the times people here get incredibly mad when someone either asks the question, or performs an impromptu check. All of the talk of rude comments to people, or popping them in the nose, just baffles me.

I'm fine with either... question, or kilt check. Maybe i'm just a bit of a manwhore like that, as its only women that do it... either way, I couldn't be bothered to be upset about it.

a) Female attention is never unwanted
b) I realise that i'm dressed against the norm, so I can expect odd reactions

You could go on about privacy, decency, manners, etc... but, to quote myself, "Morality Is Subjective".

My 2c....

I don't mind the unwanted advance at all, specially if she was a beauty. Only one knows where her action may take us later in the night.

[Archangel]

A lot of talk of violence here. Are we really going to spend time discussing hitting women (or men, for that matter) when walking away is still an option?

For all the remarks about kilt lifting and kilt checking that occurs in this forum, it's pretty hypocritical to get that upset when it actually happens.

[Alan H]

There's a big difference between laughingly teasing about what's under there...a difference between a little tug to the pleats, and a quick peek at a guys tush...

....and a full on, single-handed r double-handed thrust and grope to the genitals with conscious intent to humiliate and invade.

[Alan H]

But you know, for how often this happens....meaning almost never...and with the multiplicity of ways to discourage and avoid and defuse such an encounter before it ever happens, I think there's been enough talk on the subject, and I'm leaving it to contribute elsewhere.

[slohairt]

Hear, hear!

I find it odd... all of the times people here get incredibly mad when someone either asks the question, or performs an impromptu check. All of the talk of rude comments to people, or popping them in the nose, just baffles me.

I'm fine with either... question, or kilt check. Maybe i'm just a bit of a manwhore like that, as its only women that do it... either way, I couldn't be bothered to be upset about it.

a) Female attention is never unwanted
b) I realise that i'm dressed against the norm, so I can expect odd reactions

You could go on about privacy, decency, manners, etc... but, to quote myself, "Morality Is Subjective".

My 2c....

Hear Hear as well!

While I would like to admit that I'd do a "proper" thing like exclaim, "Young lady, how dare you lift my kilt! That is inappropriate and I feel violated!" I probably wouldn't. Especially if I imbibed copious amounts of alcohol. You see, I am descended from a very long line of Irish rakes, libertines if you will, and don't balk often at female attention!
In all seriousness...a kilt is a garment which attracts attention. When one is in bar, one is surrounded by people whose inhibitions are down and are likely to behave in a manner that some would describe as forward.
The best advice is to deal with things in stages. Laugh it of if possible, be firm if it escalates, or leave if it goes beyond that.

*giggle* *burp* or get her number!

[ccga3359]

*giggle* *burp* or get her number!

My Grandmother is starting to regret giving you her number!

[James MacMillan]

[slohairt]

Ha! Ha! Yes, there is a long tradition of Irish rakes charming English lassies as well!