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7th September 07, 09:14 AM
#11
 Originally Posted by Shawnesse
Jamie,
I think that the aforementioned piece of clothing is called a "Tam". If I am wrong then please :ban:
Otherwise the outfit looks great.
Shawnesse,
I won't ban you, but I will correct you.
I believe that item of headwear would properly be called "Balmoral".
Shawnesse: 0
Panache: 1
:mrgreen:
Cheers
Jamie
-See it there, a white plume
Over the battle - A diamond in the ash
Of the ultimate combustion-My panache
Edmond Rostand
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7th September 07, 11:35 AM
#12
 Originally Posted by Dirk Skene
Very nice  Is that sprig in your hat your clan's plant badge? Mine is the wild cherry blossom.
Sort of. I'm not technically in a clan (I could claim membership in Clan MacLaren, since I'm a Boy Scout, but laurels are hard to find), so I decided to do a little web searching, to figure out what the state and national flora were.
In California, that's the Redwood tree and the California Poppy. I didn't have any.
The U. S. national flower is the rose. I thought that might hurt a bit.
However, the national tree is the Oak. It also happens that my city, Glendora, is fairly well know locally for its numerous oaks, so I decided to go with that.
Our property happens to have a rather large oak tree growing on it. So, right before I left to pick up my girlfriend, I pick a twig of the nearest branch and put it in my bonnet.
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7th September 07, 11:55 AM
#13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnesse View Post
Jamie,
I think that the aforementioned piece of clothing is called a "Tam". If I am wrong then please
Otherwise the outfit looks great.
Shawnesse,
I won't ban you, but I will correct you.
I believe that item of headwear would properly be called "Balmoral".
Shawnesse: 0
Panache: 1
Cheers
Jamie
It IS a balmoral. A balmoral is a type of bonnet. A balmoral is more formalized and has some internal construction. A tam is VERY similar, but not structured and usually lacks a cockade and badge. Now the berets that Jamie wears are not a balmoral OR a tam (not sure if they should be included as bonnets-> I'll leave that to the Scots among us), as the structure itself is different.
Coemgen,
My only real recommendation is the addition of SOME sort of medallion, badge, or even a large pin or broach onto the cockade of the bonnet. I think they look better with SOMETHING on that style of cockade (many say that it MUST have something on it).
Also, with a saffron kilt, I'd (personally) go with an all black bonnet/balmoral. The red clashes somewhat with the saffron color. I tend to like red on bonnet with a tartan kilt that has red in it. Now, THAT is just my opinion.
Otherwise, looks good.
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7th September 07, 12:16 PM
#14
We Scots use the word bonnet as a general name for a hat.We would not say "that's a braw Glengarry/Balmoral or whatever you are wearing".We would say "that's a braw bonnet you are wearing".That would also include a woman's hat.
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7th September 07, 12:18 PM
#15
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
We Scots use the word bonnet as a general name for a hat.We would not say "that's a braw Glengarry/Balmoral or whatever you are wearing".We would say "that's a braw bonnet you are wearing".That would also include a woman's hat.
Is the term also used for a baseball cap-style hat too?
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7th September 07, 12:24 PM
#16
Yes I am afraid so!Actually we would be too polite to say anything at all!
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7th September 07, 12:38 PM
#17
 Originally Posted by Jock Scot
Yes I am afraid so!Actually we would be too polite to say anything at all!
Interesting. I wasn't sure on the commonly used term for those types of caps there. I know they are fairly common. I saw quite a few all over in 2000, not just in the city/tourist areas.
I doubt there would be much open commentary on stranger's head wear, but I was more curious as to what a Scot might say to his son to grab before, say, a drive though the country.
While on the topic, as we call them "ball caps" here (in reference to out game of baseball), what is that cap style called elsewhere?
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7th September 07, 12:49 PM
#18
 Originally Posted by MacWage
My only real recommendation is the addition of SOME sort of medallion, badge, or even a large pin or broach onto the cockade of the bonnet. I think they look better with SOMETHING on that style of cockade (many say that it MUST have something on it).
Also, with a saffron kilt, I'd (personally) go with an all black bonnet/balmoral. The red clashes somewhat with the saffron color. I tend to like red on bonnet with a tartan kilt that has red in it. Now, THAT is just my opinion.
Otherwise, looks good.
Keep in mind that I am a poor, starving Liberal Arts student. I am saving up to buy a) a practice chanter b) "Bagpipe Solutions," which was recommended by my friend and bagpiper (and instructor) and c) more kilts. Oh, and textbooks. Those might be important.
Much of the outfit components that were distinctly kilt related (e.g. hose, balmoral, the Prince Charlie), I got from garage sales and estate sales and the like around town (we have a Scottish and Irish background and lots of really old people), so I was somewhat limited by availability. Fortunately, the Prince Charlie was just my size and only a wee bit dusty, and being sold by some uninformed heir for some amount (I don't remember the specific price) less than $100.
The hose were donated by someone from my church (I think). The sporran, kilt, fly, and brooch are from SWK, and I don't remember where the rest came from, though I think the sgian was from Sport Kilt. The shirt, links, bow, etc. are from Uniformalwearhouse.com.
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7th September 07, 12:54 PM
#19
Super pic of a handsome guy and a bonnie lass.
Regional Director for Scotland for Clan Cunningham International, and a Scottish Armiger.
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7th September 07, 12:59 PM
#20
I think that they are called baseball caps here too and they seem fairly universal these days.In the rural areas it is still common to see men of all ages wearing a tweed "deer stalker" or a tweed "fore and aft"(a bit like a deerstalker,but without the ear flaps).A Balmoral or a Glengarry is almost never seen without the Kilt being worn and almost rarely when the kilt is being worn,apart from members of a pipe band that is.My 3 sons,in their mid to late twenties would wear a tweed cap "on the the hill",but just around the place the baseball cap is getting popular.
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