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23rd September 07, 09:40 AM
#1
So riddle me thus...
Irish Nationalists in 1916 saw the pan-Celtic kilt as being more Irish than the pan-Saxon pants and adopted the kilt for themselves and as a uniform for schoolboys. So if I have this right, a guy in Ohio does not think kilts are Irish but the founders of the Irish Free State did, which one is right?
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23rd September 07, 09:55 AM
#2
So according to this dude...I, as a person of Irish descent. Should totally be "not Irish". Never go to Ireland, and Never celebrate Irish anything.
Ok, being a person of German descent as well, do the same things apply? No, I'm not going to celebrate the Hitler era obviously and wear liederhosen, but I can't celebrate my German heritage either(not that I really do)
My son(who will be here in Oct.) will basically be 1/3 Irish, 1/3 German, 1/3 Mexican. So, according to this dude, he won't be able to celebrate ANY of his heritages. If he wants to be a kilt wearing Luchador, he is totally being a "plastic krout/mc/spick" and should be laughed/shuned at???
How does he feel about blacks who parade around in there "african" heritage stuff??? Italians??? Japanese???
I think this dude falls into the "American hating/enterprising maggot" feeding off of something he hates, and whining about it all the way to the bank.
"A sharp knife is nothing without a sharp eye"
-Koloth
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23rd September 07, 09:58 AM
#3
On a general level, a man who choses to move to another culture/country and when he arrives loudly declares that the other culture/country is "doing it wrong" is a fool...or in his cups.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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23rd September 07, 10:15 AM
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Last edited by auld argonian; 23rd September 07 at 10:16 AM.
Reason: duplicated by accident
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23rd September 07, 10:16 AM
#5
With a slight edit so it hangs together...the order may be changed but the sentiment remains the same:
"Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;
And the piano-organist — I've got him on the list!
They never would be missed — they never would be missed!"
Gilbert and Sullivan.
...so look out all you piano-organists...whatever the hell that is...
Best
AA
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23rd September 07, 11:25 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by auld argonian
With a slight edit so it hangs together...the order may be changed but the sentiment remains the same:
"Then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone,
All centuries but this, and every country but his own;
And the piano-organist — I've got him on the list!
They never would be missed — they never would be missed!"
Gilbert and Sullivan.
...so look out all you piano-organists...whatever the hell that is...
Best
AA
This is the usual change for this lyric, the original being a racial slur that was all too comon a hundred years ago. When we did The Mikado we changed it to the "lady terrorist".
A kilted Celt on the border.
Kentoc'h mervel eget bezañ saotret
Omne bellum sumi facile, ceterum ægerrume desinere.
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23rd September 07, 02:07 PM
#7
I forgot to mention earlier that the Ulster tartan is one of the oldest known tartans!
[B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]John Hart[/COLOR]
Owner/Kiltmaker - Keltoi
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24th September 07, 09:48 AM
#8
 Originally Posted by kallen
My son(who will be here in Oct.) will basically be 1/3 Irish, 1/3 German, 1/3 Mexican.
Your son's genealogy breaks down in thirds? How the heck did you conceive him in the first place? 
My dad's side of the family is mostly Scottish and German. My mom's is mostly English and Irish. I guess that makes me all American. But I still wear a kilt to the highland games and I'll probably buy a SWK Green Heavyweight for St. Paddy's despite what this guy says.
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24th September 07, 05:08 PM
#9
 Originally Posted by MrAcheson
Your son's genealogy breaks down in thirds? How the heck did you conceive him in the first place? 
I carried the one!!!
"A sharp knife is nothing without a sharp eye"
-Koloth
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24th September 07, 05:11 PM
#10
 Originally Posted by kallen
I carried the one!!!
I think it be fairer to say that your wife is carrying the one!
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