SWK leatherneck

[Chase]

Thanks for the pics shriner...The tartan looks great even as a formal

[Shriner]

Chase,

I think most altletes wear Sport Kilt because they are lighter and more durable.



The Leatherneck from Sports Kilt was my first kilt, I wore it last weekend at Stone Mtn for the games.

John

[Moosedog]

I really like the look of pleating to the sett. Does choosing sett over stripe or vice versa effect the cost by adding more yardage?

In general, pleating to the stripe can use less fabric than to the sett, partly because each pleat is shallower and partly because there are more pleating options available...if you study how to pleat the two you will see what I mean.

But this really is a gross generalization. It varies so much by: tartan, sett size, desired kilt weight, pleat size and depth...and all of these can vary due to your dimensions and what looks best. Each bespoke kilt is a completely new design, or engineering project, or math problem--however you want to look at it.

In reference to the Leatherneck kilts mentioned--I own an Economy and a Heavyweight wool box-pleat. Just did some measuring.

Economy:
sett is 6 inches
pleated to the stripe
pleats are approx 1 1/8 inches
so reveals are 4 7/8 inches (about 2 1/2 inches deep because of the fold)
So for a given 12 inches of pleats it uses ~11 repeats or 66 inches of fabric

Heavyweight (military) box pleat
Sett for this ~7 1/2 inches
pleats are 1 inch at the fell (they taper noticeably, unlike the economy)
So, 12 inches of pleats uses 12 setts or 90 inches of fabric

Both kilts are pleated to the same stripe-red in yellow. But because the box pleats are narrower, the back of that kilt is more yellow as you retain the bright stripe and lose some of the darker green and blue. See how all of this gets complicated? (laughing.)

Moosedog

[Cage]

Ah! I see.
Thanks for the great answer/insight Moosedog.

[Tattoo Bradley]

Chase,

I think most altletes wear Sport Kilt because they are lighter and more durable.

Don't think I agree with the "more durable" part. Perhaps "more expendable" is a better descriptor.

[Chef]

Sorry...Pleating to the sett or to the stripe...What is the more common?

As mentioned above it was more common for the military to be pleated to the stripe and civilian kilts to be pleated to the sett. In discussions I had with kiltmakers, pleating to the sett perfectly is more difficult and time consuming that pleating to the stripe. Probably a good reason why military kilts are pleated to the stripe. I can't personally confirm this though, I don't make kilts.

Even though pleating to the sett perfectly may be the epitome of the of the kiltmaker's art I prefer kilts pleated to the stripe.

The reason is probably my grandmother. When I grew enough to be getting what she called a man's kilt (I was about 16 I guess) she insisted with the kiltmaker that it be pleated to the stripe. She thought the kilt looked better when it moved (I agree) and she said I was old enough that I should be putting on a good show for the lassies. The kitlmaker laughed and most of my kilts since then have been pleated to the sett. Even though I'm married.

I really like the look of pleating to the sett. Does choosing sett over stripe or vice versa effect the cost by adding more yardage?

Generally from listed prices I have seen the answer is the price is the same. Through an individual custom kiltmaker vs. a store that may not be the case. I haven't had a kilt pleated to the sett in more than a few years and I've never asked if there is a difference.

Don't think I agree with the "more durable" part. Perhaps "more expendable" is a better descriptor.

I think that is definitely it.

[Monkey@Arms]

As mentioned above it was more common for the military to be pleated to the stripe and civilian kilts to be pleated to the sett. In discussions I had with kiltmakers, pleating to the sett perfectly is more difficult and time consuming that pleating to the stripe. Probably a good reason why military kilts are pleated to the stripe. I can't personally confirm this though, I don't make kilts.

Barb T, has said that for her, at least, the opposite is true. She finds pleating to sett easier and faster.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...d.php?p=297912

Best regards,

Jake

[Chef]

Barb T, has said that for her, at least, the opposite is true. She finds pleating to sett easier and faster.

http://www.xmarksthescot.com/forum/s...d.php?p=297912

Best regards,

Jake

As I said, I don't make kilts I am just going by what kiltmakers have told me when I have talked to or ordered from them. I haven't had the pleasure of talking to Barb on the subject.

I think it may depend on point of view though. She did mention that it was easier to lay out. Maybe it depends on which task the individual kltmaker considers more challenging when making a kilt?

[beowulf67]

Don't think I agree with the "more durable" part. Perhaps "more expendable" is a better descriptor.

When you put your fork through the kilt and then watch it fluttering over the bar in the sheaf toss, you will be thankful for sportkilts.
(disclaimer: I have not actually done this. Yet. I have seen it a few times though and it is rather funny)

On the other hand, I know several guys that compete in their nice, heavy wool kilts. One friend said he was going to wear his family tartan and that was the only way it was available. At the last games I went to, there was a man competing in wool kilt and wearing his sporran all day.

[dpseadvr]

Chase
If you are built like me I can only guess you are from your pics and you being a DevilDoc the SWK will not fit you verywell in the hips I have a SWK Standard it is nice for the price but it dose not fit very well. It pulls through the hips pretty bad 31-32 waist 41 hips have to get custom to fit, I would go with SK for games I have 2 SKs and love them light wieght and easy to care for.
Just my 2cents