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                                                24th October 07, 01:39 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	"Almost" counts only in horse shoes, hand grenades and thermonuclear devices.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cajunscot   The 93rd was also engaged at the Battle of New Orleans on 8 January 1815, and almost succeeded in breaching Jackson's line:
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Todd
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                24th October 07, 02:03 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	That still doesn't take away from the bravery of the 93rd, sir, and the fact that the 93rd was the only British unit to reach Jackson's defensive line at Chalmette. They fought honourably and should be recognized for it.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by gilmore   "Almost" counts only in horse shoes, hand grenades and thermonuclear devices. 
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                                                24th October 07, 02:04 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Of course, it took the U.S. Marines to stop the Highlanders, as illustrated by the painting by Col Waterhouse, below.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cajunscot   The 93rd was also engaged at the Battle of New Orleans on 8 January 1815, and almost succeeded in breaching Jackson's line:
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Todd
 
 
  
 Cordially,
 David
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                24th October 07, 02:08 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Of course they were behind defensive works. :mrgreen:*
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by davidlpope   Of course, it took the U.S. Marines to stop the Highlanders, as illustrated by the painting by Col Waterhouse, below.     
Cordially,  
David 
 *I'm kidding of course. No disrespect to the Marines, even though the British defeated them at the "Bladensburg Races". There I go again
  btw, tradition says that the British refused to burn the Marine Barracks in Washington DC because the Leathernecks fought well at Bladensburg, which you can't say about the majority of American forces engaged there. 
 New Orleans was a battle that should have never been fought, since the Treaty of Ghent that ended the war was signed two weeks before the battle.
 
 Again, no disrespect meant towards the Marines. I have a lot of respect for the USMC because they remember their history.
 
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                                                25th October 07, 12:06 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I believe today is the anniversary of the Charge of the Light Brigade.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                25th October 07, 12:58 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them,
 Cannon in front of them
 Volley'd & thunder'd;
 Storm'd at with shot and shell,
 Boldly they rode and well,
 Into the jaws of Death,
 Into the mouth of Hell
 Rode the six hundred.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                25th October 07, 02:07 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	The best piece of fictional propaganda ever written.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Coemgen   Cannon to right of them, Cannon to left of them,
 Cannon in front of them
 Volley'd & thunder'd;
 Storm'd at with shot and shell,
 Boldly they rode and well,
 Into the jaws of Death,
 Into the mouth of Hell
 Rode the six hundred.
 The cannons to the left had been captured by the Chasseurs d'afrique, the cannons to the right were the captured Turkish guns and hardly fired at all.
 
 The man who wrote this based it upon an article written by a correspondant who turned up just in time to see the last stragglers return from the charge which actually suceeded with relatively few casualties. The brigade took the guns that they charged spiking many of them and drove off the Russian cavalry behind said guns. The casualty figures were less than half what the infantry lost at any of the other battles.
 
 Unfortunately everyones view is based upon a poem written 3 days after the event, based upon reports by two men (William Howard Russell and Lord Raglan) who both failed to see what happened.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                26th October 07, 03:47 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					And once again reality intrudes on "poetic license".  Okay, we can all agree Braveheart - good movie not histirically accurate.  The Patriot - Braveheart in America -not historically accurate.  The Charge of the Light Brigade - excellent poem - not historically accurate.
 I could continue forever.  Point is this - to get men into battle, to be the "thin red line" - sometimes the thought and not the fact is more important.  However, we all need to know the fact also.
 
 Thanks for the update, correction, whatever you want to call it.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                26th October 07, 04:40 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					More fun trivia: the captured cannons provide the metal for the Victoria Crosses. As more awards are given out, the cannon are taken back from their locations. Apparently, the two cannons in our Victoria Park (London, Ontario) are the next ones to be melted down.
				 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                3rd November 07, 11:36 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It's just a thought, but there's all this talk of the kilt should cut the centre of the knee and some young guys like to wear their kilts longer, just below the knee these days. Take a look at the soldier on the left !   The Kilt is my delight !
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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