A question about William Wallace.

**way2fractious** · 21st November 07, 04:06 PM

Don't know about kids... but he had a dog.

**Mike1** · 21st November 07, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by McGurk

I was, of course (and tongue in cheek) refering factual documentry 'Braveheart' by that highly credible and trusted historian, Mel Gibson.

Which was actually no answer to the question at all, was it?

Originally Posted by ccga3359

It wasn't possible for him to produce children after my ancestors were finished with him

. 'Twas my favourite part of the movie.

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You merely thought your ancestors were 'finished with him'. When all along, your ancestors most certainly insured the Spirit of Wallace would live forever.

Ever heard Ted Christopher's song, I'm Coming Home? It was written about Wallace and was performed throughout the 2005 Walk for Wallace, the funeral service at St. Bartholomew's Church in Smithfield, and the Wallace Homecoming at Lanark.

The second verse opens with these lines:

"They tore apart my body so I could not rise on Judgement Day
But what they did not realize is now I'll never go away..."

The site where Wallace allegedly stood 'trial'.

Some pals and myself standing watch at the Spirit of Wallace coffin in Lanark, as some other pals posed for a photo in front of the coffin.

The Spirit of Wallace come home again to St. Kentigern's Kirk, 11 September 2005. Perhaps 20 of us, from a crowd of over 2500 were allowed within the walled churchyard to witness this historic moment.

You'll doubtless not know or recognize this site, but for those of us that do, we know that no man was ever 'finished' with Wallace.

Out of curiosity, did I somehow miss the commemoration of the 700th anniversary of Edward I's death? Can you tell me how many were there to recognize the day? Have you ever visited Burgh-by-Sands? It's quite a popular stop for many Scots, as they pass through Cumberland, from what I understand.

Are you certain this was the direction you meant for your comment to take you? You see, your 'favourite part of the movie' was most assuredly not the end of the real story.

For those that are interested in the question posted in the original post - as Daz has pointed out, there is little in the way of reliable history on Wallace. It is an unfortunate circumstance that Blind Harry is often quoted as a source of historical information, but the fact of the matter is Blind Harry was born some 135 years after Wallace's death, with William Hamilton's Blind Harry's Wallace published some 230 years after Blind Harry's death.

**James MacMillan** · 21st November 07, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by beowulf67

Next you'll be claiming that Ashlee Simpson lip-syncs her concerts. For shame.

You know - - - I did hear that her middle name was Milly Vannilly.........

**beowulf67** · 21st November 07, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by James MacMillan

You know - - - I did hear that her middle name was Milly Vannilly.........

I "Blame it on the rain"

**Ozman1944** · 21st November 07, 08:34 PM

I think you're being mean to that nice Mr. Mel Gibson because he's Jewish.

**Ozman1944** · 21st November 07, 08:43 PM

Seriously, now; I wear the Wallace Tartan in his memory, and shall wear it proudly to Thanksgiving Dinner with my Parishioners tomorrow.

**gilmore** · 21st November 07, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by beloitpiper

I don't think William Wallace had any children. Edward III was born in 1312...William Wallace died in 1305.

It was a long pregnancy.

**highlander_Daz** · 22nd November 07, 10:49 AM

The Wallace connection comes from the directors visit to Scotland, Randall Wallace visited Edinburgh castle pointed up to the statue that is by the main gate of the castle and asked a guide "who was that guy with the same name as me?" Historions may mock Bravehearts accuracy but I can tell you in 1996 you came put of the pictures with the heart of a lion after watching that film, it was a sensation. Gibson was Wallace- hang the accuracy, hundreds and hundreds of years after his death, Wallace stirred the heart of a nation, and his belief that it was wrong for a powerful nation run by a psychopath to dominate, plunder and loot smaller nations holds fast throughout history and to this day. Mike thanks for the pics, one day I shall shake the hand of the patriot that is sir David Ross.

**Mike1** · 22nd November 07, 12:08 PM

Daz, as we walked from the churchyard at St. Kentigern's that evening, a pal of mine from Perth very quietly said, "We just took part in a historic moment, do you realize that?"

Here's a video that was made at the Wallace Memorial in Robroyston on 3 August 2005, the day Ross set off for London. Ted Christopher's I'm Coming Home comes in around 3:52.

Actually, I wouldn't have thought Ross was continuing to use that title. Having knighthood bestowed by a poseur doesn't mean much, I should think.

**Rampant Lion** · 22nd November 07, 01:37 PM

Thanks for the replies, guys. I was curious because there was this discussion taking place on Facebook in a Clan Grant group that I belong to. Somebody in the group stated that they are related to William Wallace through their relations to the Grants of castle Grant. Well of course someone countered saying that there isn't any proof or documentation regarding William Wallace being related to Clan Grant(which I think is correct). The first person then countered stating that they and family members have done the genealogical(sp) research to prove, but of course didn't provide any of this proof.

So, it got me to thinking: I never heard anything about any decendants of William Wallace. Anyway, that's why I was curious. Thanks again for your responses