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28th November 07, 10:23 PM
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 Originally Posted by Makeitstop
But as for the farm land, sell it, keep it, I don't really care. As long as no one actually takes it against the owner's will I have no objections either way.
Personally, I'm opposed to overdevelopment, so I'm naturally sympathetic to the farmer and here there should be objections even if he wants to sell it. It's a protected area and the local council is obligated to consider its protected status before deciding to OK development. I somehow think the only green they thought about was dollars (ok, ok pounds) and not nature...
I realize jobs are importat too but how many jobs will be created for townspeople and how many will be created for workers that the place will ship in seasonally? And I know the place will create large tax revenue's, but at what cost?
Ok, I'll now get off my environmentally-friendly soap box
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29th November 07, 05:04 AM
#2
I don't want to get too political here but I feel that must add my $.02.
I am in favor of Mr. Forbes, he is a farmer and those guys are getting scarce these days. The land is his and he should be able to with it what he pleases. I won't comment on this until I pay the taxes and or mortgage; it's just not my business. I am naturally suspicious of any rich developer/industrialist simply because of what I perceive as a built-in sense of avarice. This whole affair smacks of the eminent domain issue. The fact that Mr. Trump is famous(infamous) merely raises the stakes a little. I don't know whether or Scotland needs another golf course but I see this as a matter between two non-public concerns.
What makes me nervous is the propensity we have to involve "The Government" in what is essentially a private matter. It seems that when a situation arises that we disagree with and is beyond our immediate control, we turn to our public agencies to step in and make it right for us. While this may solve an immediate problem it sets a precedent for future governmental meddling whether asked for/ needed or not. I believe that we can find justification and rationalization for any point of view if we look long and hard enough (think O.J Simpson ). We may win the battle at hand but the ultimate cost exacts a high price.
This is not what our ancestors regarded as the American Spirit and it is just what many of our immigrant forebears came here to escape. The power that exists in a democratic form of government come from us, the people and when we willingly give up some of that individual responsibility we transfer it to the government. This, in effect, greases an already slippery slope.
Now that I have completed my diatribe I would like to say that it is respectfully submitted here with the highest regard to the members of this online community. This is my opinion and I certainly do not wish to be contentious, simply because we should be able to speak our minds without it. I realize that I have probably stayed far off topic and I willingly accept any action that the moderators see fit to take take.
Thanks,
Bob
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29th November 07, 02:05 PM
#3
Well, according to BBC News the Aberdeenshire Council has rejected Mr. Trump - by a margin of one vote. Here is the story - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/7118105.stm
The trump folks are saying they may appeal or they may "go do something spectacular elsewhere - just not in Scotland". The arrogance of these idiots. I'd say good riddance!
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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29th November 07, 02:42 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by starbkjrus
Well, according to BBC News the Aberdeenshire Council has rejected Mr. Trump - by a margin of one vote.
Huzzah!
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29th November 07, 03:21 PM
#5
The only way we really see anything of Mr Trump over here is in his Apprentice series.
Clearly there he is used to being courted and to setting the agenda and expects to get a return on his investments. The same of course applies to Sir Alan Sugar who does his own Apprentice series over here but property is less of an issue for him.
But maybe there is a lesson here - money does not always talk and people cannot always be bought. No doubt much of what the Trumps and and the Sugars of this world do is beneficial but Kudos to those who show some independence of spirit too.
There is a farm set in the middle of the M62 motorway that runs across the Pennine Hills - they stood their ground too and the Motorway had to be built around it in both directions.
The powerful cannot always get their own way and that's not a bad thing.
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Cymru, Yr Alban, Iwerddon, Cernyw, Ynys Manau a Lydaw am byth! Yng Nghiltiau Ynghyd!
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30th November 07, 10:36 AM
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bye bye Donald ! would have been fun to see his hair try and stand up to the windswept Aberdeen coast !!!
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