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9th December 07, 08:19 AM
#1
Okay, one more...I think we have at least one Brazilian member of the forum, but not sure he was in Brazil now...age wreaks havoc with the mind.
Anyhow there is a St. Andrew's Society in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
http://www.standrewrio.com.br/
emailed them.
So...what about African countries...? Last King of Scotland and all, eh what/
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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9th December 07, 08:25 AM
#2
Well McMurdo, there's hope for Belize, but I can't find anything current yet.
Did find this; Nearly all Belize History books deal from the time of Scottish pirate presence at the Belize River mouth, 350 years ago, to present day.
That'll warm Pour1Malt's heart...guess the Scottish pirates hung out there to ambush Spanish galleons.
Ron
Who's late little brother's first wife was a Mayan beauty from Belize
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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9th December 07, 08:35 AM
#3
So, tried to use the edit feature, and even without a pic it just went in circles forever and ever and ever...maybe because of a link. Anyway, so there's a book out on Scots in Latin America that can put us on the trail of lost brothers we still need to find and kilt.
http://www.genealogical.com/products...rica/9785.html
And the blurb from it says; Although Scots are known to have ventured to Latin America as early as 1540 (mostly as soldiers of fortune), emigration from Scotland to Latin America only began in earnest after Spanish power in the western hemisphere began to wane. Following the end of the Napoleonic Wars in 1815, demobilized soldiers and sailors, Scots among them, flocked to aid the Latin American revolutionaries in their fight for liberty from Spain. Spain's ouster removed restrictions on immigration, with the result that Scottish passengers and investors flocked to the area. As early as 1825, for example, the Norval, the Symetry, and the Harmony set sail for Argentina with Scottish bricklayers, implement makers, blacksmiths, farmers, and other skilled tradesmen.
David Dobson's latest volume on Scottish emigration is the first work to enumerate the members of this 19th-century exodus. Dobson's findings are based on primary sources in Scotland, especially documents in archives, newspapers, and cemetery transcriptions. The settlers, with annotations, are listed in alphabetical order by surname. While there is considerable variance from description to description, each entry identifies the passenger by country (and sometimes city) of origin, a date when the immigrant was known to have resided in Latin America, and the source of the information. The majority of the entries also provide one or more of the following pieces of information: occupation, age, parent(s)' name(s), place of birth in Scotland, and date of arrival in Latin America. Researchers will be interested to learn that 19th-century Scotsmen turned up in a number of Latin American countries, including Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Brazil, British Guiana, Chile, Colombia, Peru, Uruguay, and Venezuela. In identifying more than 1,500 Scots immigrants to Latin America, Mr. Dobson's latest book does not purport to be the definitive work on its subject; nonetheless, it unquestionably breaks new ground for students of immigration and Scottish genealogy.
See, like I keep saying, Scots were everywhere...folks who think they don't have any Scottish ancestry just need to flesh out their family trees a little bit more. Bound to be a Scotsman luring on a branch or two...just has to be...
How do you say in Latin, "We Traveled, and We Were Prolific" ??
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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9th December 07, 08:52 AM
#4
Okay, that's it for me...just sent emails to nine Scottish Dance clubs in South Africa...apparently the only contacts on the African continent for things Scottish. Maybe a few will check out the forum.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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9th December 07, 09:00 AM
#5
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
Okay, that's it for me...just sent emails to nine Scottish Dance clubs in South Africa...apparently the only contacts on the African continent for things Scottish. Maybe a few will check out the forum.
Ron
Ron,
You're not looking hard enough; I know for a fact that their are several reserve units of the South African Defence Forces that are Scottish, including the Capetown Highlanders, the Pretoria Highlanders, the Witwatersrand Rifles, etc. There are also St. Andrew's Societies, but remember: not every Scottish society has a web site.
T.
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9th December 07, 09:14 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
Ron,
You're not looking hard enough; I know for a fact that their are several reserve units of the South African Defence Forces that are Scottish, including the Capetown Highlanders, the Pretoria Highlanders, the Witwatersrand Rifles, etc. There are also St. Andrew's Societies, but remember: not every Scottish society has a web site.
T.
I think the South Africa part is what he was getting at...
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9th December 07, 09:25 AM
#7
 Originally Posted by Tattoo Bradley
I think the South Africa part is what he was getting at...
And that's what I was getting at as well; there is a large Scottish community in SA. Ron's post seemed to imply that the only Scottish group in SA were Scottish dancers.
T.
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9th December 07, 09:26 AM
#8
Aye Todd,
For sure my resources are limited to Google. Was hoping that somehow, maybe from the kilt map Bradley tends, to figure out where there aren't any forum members, then seek Scottish groups - on line or otherwise - and just briefly and politely let them know the X Marks forum exists and hope someone checks us out and joins. Thus improving our worldwide spread and input of info.
I know this forum has been a Godsend to myself as a remote kiltie. I'm guessing there are other kilties clustered about in groups such as Scottish dance groups that maybe haven't risked wearing their kilts for routine daily wear.
And, a remote kiltie may just figure they are remote and not even realize this forum is available for entertainment, support, and friendship...guess we'll see if anything pops up from Argentina, Bolivia, or South Africa in the near future.
Ron
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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9th December 07, 10:52 AM
#9
 Originally Posted by Riverkilt
. . . age wreaks havoc with the mind. . . .
Some time ago (see what Ron means?) one of the cable channels ran a special in honor of Bob Hope's 100th birthday. One of the clips they showed was of Bob delivering this bit:
"There are four stages of senility. In the first you forget names and in the second, faces. In the third you forget to zip up and in the fourth, to zip down."
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"No man is genuinely happy, married, who has to drink worse whiskey than he used to drink when he was single." ---- H. L. Mencken
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9th December 07, 11:12 AM
#10
Crack me up Ian,
So we can avoid stage three and stage four of senility by being kilted!
I will not research Peru...I will not research Peru....I will not research Peru....
Never mind...too late An English Pub in Cusco...not Scottish, but British...
http://www.cross-keys-pub-cusco-peru.com/index.htm
Ron
Last edited by Riverkilt; 9th December 07 at 11:20 AM.
Reason: Complete lack of will power
Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
"I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."
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