De-Anglicisation of Names

[slohairt]

Alright, I'll bite. There is "Shaw" and then "Crocker," de-anglofy me.

SHAW There can be three etymological origins for this name: Highland, Lowland, and Norman-Irish. The Highland origin is from Mac an Sidhich (pronounced MAC AN SHEE-HEE) meaning son of the wolf. The Lowland origin is topographical from the Anglo-Saxon Sceaga meaning a small wood or thicket. The Scottish Gaelic transliteration of this name is Seadhgh. The Norman-Irish origin is from Jodoc, a name popular among the Breton retainers of Norman knights. Upon the Gaelicisation of the Normans this name became Seoigh (pronounced SHOYE). This is the same name as Joyce.

CROCKER Occupational meaning maker of pots? A Gaelic phonetic rendering/transliteration would be Croicéir (IRISH) or Crocair (SCOTTISH).

[Bugbear]

Thank you.

[slohairt]

Let's try mine: Shinn

I've done some research and have found immigration information on-line for Ellis Island, Halifax, and Montreal. Some Shinn's are reported coming from England in the early 19th century, with a couple arriving directly from Ireland.

I believe the name Shinn is a shortened version of one, or several, variants found in County Cork, Ireland. There are too many longer variants, like Shinnoch, Shinnick, Shinnors, and Shinnagh to be a coincidence.

Chris...

SHINN Hard to say what the etymological origin is. Shinnoch, Shinnick, and Shinnagh are all Anglicisations of Ó Seanaigh (pronounced O SHAN-EE) meaning descended from the ancient or elder. It is possible that Shinn is from Ó Seain. Shinnors is of Norman origin I believe, and therefore unrelated to the first three. Incidentally, Shinners is a modern slang term for those who support Sinn Féin!

[slohairt]

Interesting!

I have two Celtic names in my family- Wolf and Leddy. Leddy I already know the origins of both, but it would be interesting to see what you make of them.

WOLF If this be the Irish name Wolf/Wolfe/Woulfe, then it is ultimately of Norman origin with an obvious meaning. When the Normans were absorbed into Gaelic culture, the name was rendered de Bhulbh. So, Celtic in the sense that it is an Irish name, though etymologically it is not.

LEDDY I'll assume this is the Irish surname. A tricky, with little documentation. There are a few possible origins: Ó Lideadha, Ó Láidigh/Ó Loidigh (descended from the mighty?) I'm not really sure.

[Clockwork John]

Man, some of these names have very cool meanings, like "son of the wolf" or "descended from the mighty"... then there's me... "John Crooked-Mouth"

[Nighthawk]

WOLF If this be the Irish name Wolf/Wolfe/Woulfe, then it is ultimately of Norman origin with an obvious meaning. When the Normans were absorbed into Gaelic culture, the name was rendered de Bhulbh. So, Celtic in the sense that it is an Irish name, though etymologically it is not.

LEDDY I'll assume this is the Irish surname. A tricky, with little documentation. There are a few possible origins: Ó Lideadha, Ó Láidigh/Ó Loidigh (descended from the mighty?) I'm not really sure.

Actually, you are correct on Wolfe. That's how I've tracked it, as well. From Wuffinga to Wolfestan to Wolfe. By my research, the name first appeared in England in the early 4th century, presumably because the family were Roman conscripts. That's my theory. There were Wuffingas who were bretwallas at the time the Vikings came calling, and then the name ends up in Scotland, Ireland and Wales. I assume they didn't want to become blood eagles... Thanks for taking the time to think about my names!

[slohairt]

Man, some of these names have very cool meanings, like "son of the wolf" or "descended from the mighty"... then there's me... "John Crooked-Mouth"

If it's any consolation, "crooked mouth" could possibly refer to a wry grin!

Sincerely,

John of the Martial Bear

[slohairt]

Actually, you are correct on Wolfe. That's how I've tracked it, as well. From Wuffinga to Wolfestan to Wolfe. By my research, the name first appeared in England in the early 4th century, presumably because the family were Roman conscripts. That's my theory. There were Wuffingas who were bretwallas at the time the Vikings came calling, and then the name ends up in Scotland, Ireland and Wales. I assume they didn't want to become blood eagles... Thanks for taking the time to think about my names!

You're welcome and cheers!

[Bugbear]

Ooou, blood eagles...

[Nick the DSM]

how about byrnes?