Six or Seven Celtic nations?

[Bugbear]

,Understood.

I had to go back and look carefully at what I had written because I didn't quite understand your responce, cajunscot .
Let me clarify if not correct what I was trying to say.
I no longer have faith in the history that (I was taught) because it was quite flaud. This has nothing to do with the history research, and everything to do with the people teaching the history. Very sorry for the mistake and I get what you're saying about the revising and correcting as more information comes in. My point on the maps was that they were probably revised for religious reasons at the time they were being made.
And now I see that it's taking a little while for each of our posts to show up and we're stepping on eachother a little bit.
seanboy, I think you are kind of pointing out what I was getting at. Celtic is kind of in a way a mythical cultural
thing of today. It lives in our minds. I remember a book from my college days and I think it was called "The Phylosiphy of History" by I think Heagle or some spelling. Heuge book, but one of the gists of the book was that history is a spirit trying to be born. That is where I'm coming from. If Celtic-ness becomes one of our cultural myths in our symbolic minds, it has a reality to it.

[The Wizard of BC]

There are a couple of new books out that are attempting to trace the histories of the peoples of the British Isles using DNA.

May I suggest you find a copy of;

Saxons, Vikings and Celts
The genetic roots of Britain and Ireland
by Bryan Sykes
Paperback version published by Bantam Press 2006
ISBN 978-0393062687

or

The Tribes of Britain
Who are we and where did we come from
by David Miles
Published by Phoenix Press 2007
ISBN 978-0753817995

I have just finished the first of these and there are some surprises. Bryan Sykes is one of the most respected DNA researchers today. After analyzing his data he makes the postulation that it seems the current interest in Celtic culture is due to WWII. Prior to that people of the isles considered themselves more aligned with the peoples of Germany.
His research can find no "Lost Tribes", Celts as a race, or peoples other than the Picts who may have inhabited the Isles prior to the arrival of the H haploid group arriving via the Atlantic seaboard route from Spain.
As more mDNA and Y chromosome research is done I think we may have to re-think all of our roots.

For more information may I suggest you check out "The Genographic Project" sponsored by The National Geographic Society and IBM. Bobbie and I got each other DNA sampling kilts for Christmas and her family line is already plotted. Mine should be finished in a week or two.

[gilmore]

For more information may I suggest you check out "The Genographic Project" sponsored by The National Geographic Society and IBM. Bobbie and I got each other DNA sampling kilts for Christmas and her family line is already plotted. Mine should be finished in a week or two.

The Genographic Project isn't designed or intended to tell one about one's family history. It shows human migration patterns, mostly prehistoric, and in very broad, vague and general terms. They test only 12 markers, a very small number. It won't tell you others whom you match with, and you can't upgrade to test more markers.

If you want DNA testing that is meaning for genealogy, for tracing one's own patrilineal or matrilineal lines, the best place to test is Family Tree DNA at www.ftdna.com. Theirs is the largest database, and their FAQ does a good job of explaining what Y DNA and mtDNA can and cannot show you.

[The Wizard of BC]

The Family Tree DNA company is the same one that provides the test for the Genographic Project.

I was not trying to say that I was attempting to trace my family tree using the Genographic Project. You are correct that that is not what it is all about. It is a broad project focusing on Human Migration Routes and that is what I wanted to do.