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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Most things I've seen from that time used "Scotchmen" or "Scotch" to reffer to the people. Did the Scots call themselves Scotch at the time, or was it just everyone else?

    And on that (completely unrelated, of course) note, I could use a scotch right now.
    I dont think we ever called ourselves scotchmen

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanboy View Post
    I dont think we ever called ourselves scotchmen
    Oh, I think it's kind of quaint and adds to the period quality of the piece,

    Like reading Hermann Hesse and finding the word "esquimo" and puzzling for a few seconds before I realized it was "eskimo" only in Nine-Teen-Teens language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanboy View Post
    I dont think we ever called ourselves scotchmen
    Perhaps, but it might have been accepted in the American media of that period.

    Btw, welcome to X Marks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanboy View Post
    I dont think we ever called ourselves scotchmen
    "The Scotch are hardy and as hard as the granite of our Scotch Hills."

    -- Sir Harry Lauder, a native Scot, to a reporter from the Oregon Journal, circa 1920.

    Granted, that's just one example...

    T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cajunscot View Post
    . . . to a reporter from the Oregon Journal, circa 1920. . . .
    So that appears to be what the reporter thought he heard. My opinion is that "Scotch" is simply a minor mispronunciation of "Scots" unless the subject is whisky, in which case it's the conventional pronunciation and spelling and probably of the same origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian.MacAllan View Post
    So that appears to be what the reporter thought he heard. My opinion is that "Scotch" is simply a minor mispronunciation of "Scots" unless the subject is whisky, in which case it's the conventional pronunciation and spelling and probably of the same origin.

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    I think you're going a bit out on a limb to assume that the reporter printed what he heard.
    The use of the word "Scotch" was quite common in the late 19th/early 20th century. I have an article in my e-mail files somewhere from Scotland that deals with this very subject, if I can find it, more's the pity.

    Case in point: during WWI, the 15th (Scottish) Division had as its symbol, a wheel scotch, hence the 15th "Scotch" Division. (Chappel, Scottish Units in the World Wars, p. 25)

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