kilts in Scotland

[seanboy]

Well just because they were born in Liverpool.... it doesn't mean they're NOT Scots.

I agree with this to an extent, as I said before if I had a child in liverpool and brough he/she up in scotland they would be scottish. it does not matter where you were born.

However if My child was born in liverpool and brought up in liverpool then he or she would not be scottish, they would be english.
My intention is not to offend americans/canadians of scots heritage.

but if you were not brought up in scotland you are not a scot. The vast majority of scots, and all the scots that I personally know do not conisder americans with scottish heritage as scots.

infact bbc scotland conducted surveys with scots to understand scottish identity. and the majority of scots said that the scottish accent defined whom was a scot. I can agree with this as a scottish accent shows you have grown up in scots culture. I will try and find the bbc link. - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4994174.stm

...... anyway I have been to america in several locations and I admire americans. However Americans are completely differant to scots in culture, ideology, politically, religiously. Americans and the scots are really very differant people.

[macwilkin]

Before this gets too out-of-hand, let's keep the discussion to kilts, please.

Todd

[Chef]

I respectfully disagree. The fact that the kilt is considered a Highlandman's dress is an indirect reason for some of the Lowland squaddies being upset. Yes, there was a general feeling of upset that the regiments were being merged -- I won't argue that point -- but remember that the Lowland Regiments -- the Royal Scots, the KOSB and the RHF (the latter which are amalgamations of the old HLI and the RSF) have never been kilted (save pipes & drums and a few territorial battalions, such as the Dandy 9th Royal Scots and the 10th Glasgow Highlanders of the HLI).

I distinctly remember reading an article in which it was mentioned that the Lowland squaddies were upset in having to wear the kilt when it was never a part of their regimental customs and traditions.

So we're both correct!

I hear what your saying, but I'm not sure we are disagreeing. I remember the same articles but what I took from them was that all the individual regiments disliked the idea of giving up the customs and traditions that had been part of the regiments. For the Lowland regiments one of those happen to be the trews; it set them apart. They didn't have a problem with kilts just that it wasn't their regimental history. All the regiments lost, the trews for the Lowland regiments was just a very obvious one.

[macwilkin]

I hear what your saying, but I'm not sure we are disagreeing. I remember the same articles but what I took from them was that all the individual regiments disliked the idea of giving up the customs and traditions that had been part of the regiments. For the Lowland regiments one of those happen to be the trews; it set them apart. They didn't have a problem with kilts just that it wasn't their regimental history. All the regiments lost, the trews for the Lowland regiments was just a very obvious one.

Exactly. :mrgreen:

T.

[ozone]

What the HLL happened to this thread?!?!

I thought we were all talking about how many folks wear kilts in Scotland? What's all this stuff about military, culture, who's Scottish and so on?!?!

Back on topic: so, how many Scots wear kilts daily? If not daily when do they wear them?

PS: "irregardless" is not a word..."Since the prefix ir- means 'not' (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means 'without,' irregardless is a double negative."...so there!

[Chef]

One other thing, making the connection that the Lowland regiments not wanting to wear the kilt is somehow anti-Highland is tenuous at best since tartan trews were originally a highland garment as well. It really is only about the regiments history, not a Highland vs. Lowland idea.

[Chef]

Back on topic: so, how many Scots wear kilts daily? If not daily when do they wear them?

Not many, and mostly for special events although more recently as a show of national support for Scottish teams.

[highlander_Daz]

Sandy Lyle, Bruce Rioch, ?


weve cleared up one myth and established that the Kilt iS Highlandwear, as a "Teuchter" its important that Highland culture is recognised and in some respects kept alive. most people would be suprised to hear that my Grandfather would get in trouble for speaking Gàidhlig at school, and that when lessons were introduced here recently in Gàidhlig, that parents howled in protest, what has this got to do with the Kilt?, well the wearing of Tartan is something thats associated with Scotland as a whole, whereas it should ALSO be associated with the Highlands, thats not to be smug or snobbish, but as a matter of fact, the Kilt is Highlandwear and ALL Scots not just "Teuchters" should be proud of that fact, the original poster wanted to know about the Kilt in Scotland, I hope this has been an eyeopener, If you wear the Kilt because your Scots or of Scots descent then good on you, if you wear it because you like it, brilliant, its not just another item of clothing, its something special, it was banned because of what it represented!!!! it came back and makes Millions for the Scottish economy (and the Gold bros) it draws people here from all over the world, it makes women go weak at the knees, it makes men feel like heroes, it makes a massive statement. its is a symbol of a culture that was brutally destoyed in a shocking act of ethnic cleansing. yet still people wear it

Fantastic

[Ozman1944]

Gee! This is getting really complicated. Sorry I spoke; just pretend I never answered this thread. (Sheesh!)

[macwilkin]

What the HLL happened to this thread?!?!

I thought we were all talking about how many folks wear kilts in Scotland? What's all this stuff about military, culture, who's Scottish and so on?!?!

Back on topic: so, how many Scots wear kilts daily? If not daily when do they wear them?

We were discussing the Highland regiments and kilts -- very germane to the topic at hand.

T.