Celtic Dove Kilt Pin

[Mark Keeney]

Gents,

Keep in mind if Dave found this only in one place, it could be an original creation of the silversmith.

Think about how we would feel if someone was trying to blatantly copy Rab Gordon's knife handle designs? Or a T-Shirt from Rocky? Or Stillwater's Nightstalker sporran?

Just a quick reminder from your Kilted Conscience

Respectfully

Jamie

Exactly my thoughts but Panache said it better than I would have.

I had a copy of an antique pin made, but I needed to change it, so I added a stone to it to make it different. I'm not selling it, (manufacturnig) and it cost more that the pin would have cost me if I had jumped on it when I first saw it.

[O'Neille]

That design is from a manuscript that is 1200 years old. Current copyright is life of the author plus 70 years. Renditions of the art in various forms is public domain. My Daughter has that dove in her Book of Kells coloring book.

I agree it would be wrong to "make a copy of someone elses work and sell it as your own". The reason you see so many zoomorphic designs, that are original yet alike, at the games is that they are mostly taken from the old illuminated manuscripts.

[Panache]

That design is from a manuscript that is 1200 years old. Current copyright is life of the author plus 70 years. Renditions of the art in various forms is public domain. My Daughter has that dove in her Book of Kells coloring book.

I agree it would be wrong to "make a copy of someone elses work and sell it as your own". The reason you see so many zoomorphic designs, that are original yet alike, at the games is that they are mostly taken from the old illuminated manuscripts.

O'Neille,

No offense was intended. The design appears to be fair game and I'm sure you will render it with your usual (unusual) brilliance. We sometimes get a bit carried away here at XMTS. A reminder of respecting efforts of others and not blantantly ripping off someone else's idea or product is a good thing.

After all we are the Ladies and Gentlemen of X Marks the Scot.

Cheers

Jamie

[O'Neille]

No offense taken. If I hadn't previously seen the original artwork, I might have thought it was an original design. It is certainly a unique interpretation of the original itself.

[O'Neille]

Here is my interpretation. I hesitated posting it before I contacted the artist that created the other version. I sent an email with no response and tried calling today. I admit that I had never thought of turning this image into a pin. I have created other pins from the Book of Kells images. My Daughter has a coloring book with simplified images suitable for pin making. I carved it in wood, made a mold and poured two. One is lightly buffed and the other is ground flat, polished, set with a turqoise eye, and buffed. So, from the Breves causae of Matthew.



So if anyone has misgivings about celtic artwork recreated in pewter feel free to send them to me. I'll be glad to ease your conscience.