kilts in Scotland

[sharpdressedscot]

i just want to say me view on the "what makes a scot" discussion. i think heritage pride and root seeking pride is a lode of rubbish. in the modern world there are not alot of cultural differences unless they r baced on religion or if u dig deep especially rich countries.

i think that people within alot of societies in "the new world" and even other places. that search there roots and create pride from it are escaping from the boring culture around them and want to identify them selfs as something els. its the same with sub-culters of today people become punk, goth, scene kid, rude boy. cuz they r bored of modern society.

i ware a kilt not with pride not with respect but also not with ignorance i just wear a kilt cuz it fits in with MY culture and my interest in celtic culture

i think that national culture is dieing its turning into religious culture, class culture and sub-cultures. i mean for example take a look at the streets of scotland i bet if u were shown a pic of people doing day to day business with no clue of where it was show it to 100 diff people i doubt hardly any one could say it is scotland and they are Scottish people if i went back in time 100 or 200 years and did the same thing it would be opposite results. im not just picking on scotland it could be most countries.

y go back to your roots and follow there paths or ways when your roots are the only thing in your life that u dont control and that matters the least. pride in heritage is like a mask that eats into the face.

(sorry about spelling im dislexic)

Family roots and heritage can actually be quite important. If you don't know your root, then what can you know. Show you and and a million others hate looking back, but if you don't know the past, then you can't know the future. It kinda goes along with that: What happened in the past will happen again if you don't learn from it.

Also, roots are important because of identity. It says what your heritage is, it gives people pride, to be proud of what they are.

Maybe I am bored with this modern society or maybe I'm part of it but want to be different. But I don't wear my kilt to be different, I wear it because, not only it's my heritage, but I can wear it with pride and don't give a crap what you think of it. I'm proud of my roots and heritage.

[Oldhiker]

Maybe I am bored with this modern society or maybe I'm part of it but want to be different. But I don't wear my kilt to be different, I wear it because, not only it's my heritage, but I can wear it with pride and don't give a crap what you think of it. I'm proud of my roots and heritage.

Ya i agree, if you don't know where you have been you wont know where you are going.

If I could roll back the clock 1000 years that would be so much fun knowing what I do now

[beloitpiper]

Yeah, belsen, I have to disagree....with basically everything you said. Here's why.

in the modern world there are not alot of cultural differences unless they r baced on religion or if u dig deep especially rich countries.

Cultural difference? What about language, sports, clothing, or music? Ok, maybe music has ties with religion, but the other have developed totally separate from religion. I have no idea why you dragged religion into this, because it has very little (if anything) to do with kilts and pride in one's heritage.

i think that people within alot of societies in "the new world" and even other places. that search there roots and create pride from it are escaping from the boring culture around them and want to identify them selfs as something els. its the same with sub-culters of today people become punk, goth, scene kid, rude boy. cuz they r bored of modern society.

I'm not bored with modern culture. Kilts ARE a modern culture. You asct as if we're all dressing up and acting like it's the 17th century! Highland Games, bagpipes, and other Scottish events are just as strong today as they ever were. No, this is not a dead culture. It is part of our modern culture, and I am not trying to escape reality.

i think that national culture is dieing its turning into religious culture, class culture and sub-cultures. i mean for example take a look at the streets of scotland i bet if u were shown a pic of people doing day to day business with no clue of where it was show it to 100 diff people i doubt hardly any one could say it is scotland and they are Scottish people if i went back in time 100 or 200 years and did the same thing it would be opposite results. im not just picking on scotland it could be most countries.

I'm not exactly sure what you said here, but yeah, you're probably right. If you were to take a photo of a Scottish street, it might look like a street in England or Ireland. But that does not mean that it's turning into a religious culture, class culture, or sub-culture.

And another thing, class-culture has always been there! You act like lower class and upper-class is a new thing. Ever since the BEGINNING OF CIVILIZATION, there has been separate classes with separate, distinct cultures. And religious culture. I'm not sure what you're saying here either, but religion has always had a major role in shaping national culture. I don't know what religion you're aiming at, but I think you're a bit confused. In fact, I think religion has less influence now than it ever has.

y go back to your roots and follow there paths or ways when your roots are the only thing in your life that u dont control and that matters the least. pride in heritage is like a mask that eats into the face.

Even if I lose everything, I'll still have my heritage. Nobody can EVER take that away from me. My family and ancestors separate me from everybody else in the world, and it is why I'm me. I think it matters MOST. Why does it eat into my face?


I'm just really confused. If you hate roots and heritage and and think that national culture is just a mask to hide from modern culture and that religion is taking over national culture, why wear a kilt? Seems a bit...counter-intuitive, doesn't it?