'Kingussie' Pleated

[ANGELMAN]

Ok Guys I Don't Know About The Spelling. Mine Stinks! However I Do Find The This Style Of Pleating Very Interesting.

[Pleater]

There is one thing which you really need to consider if you make a Kingussie kilt, the back will fly up even more easily than an ordinary knife pleated kilt, so you might consider putting a strip of the small weights used in net curtains, or a few coins perhaps, into that back pleat. Another option would be a strip of elastic a few inches from the lower edge to hold the inside edges of the pleats together.

It would be just the right costume for a swashbuckling Scottish Puss in Boots as it would accommodate a tail really well - but for those without tails I'd recommend a heavy weight worsted wool or perhaps a thick corduroy or canvas material plus other safety options or that back pleat will be tapping you on your shoulder to get your attention.

The spelling 'Kinguisse' is on one of the websites, I thought at first it might have been me - I can reverse letters in almost anything, and its even worse with numbers.

[Tartan Hiker]

There is one thing which you really need to consider if you make a Kingussie kilt, the back will fly up even more easily than an ordinary knife pleated kilt...

Now that's interesting. I've been sitting here for the past 5 minutes making sketches and calculating wind vectors, and I just can't figure why this is true. Must be due to the reduced friction between the pleats in the very center. Once they achieve "lift-off" there's more sail surface to keep the whole thing moving upward. Hmmm...

Pleater...do you see this effect when walking directly into the wind, or is it apparent at other wind angles as well?

I've got 5 yards of 16 oz. cloth waiting for my attentions, and was toying with the idea of kinguisse pleating. Now that the "fly-up challenge" has been issued my mind is made up. I've got to see this for myself, and if I find it too annoying I can always tear it apart and rebuild it.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Now that's interesting. I've been sitting here for the past 5 minutes making sketches and calculating wind vectors, and I just can't figure why this is true. Must be due to the reduced friction between the pleats in the very center. Once they achieve "lift-off" there's more sail surface to keep the whole thing moving upward. Hmmm...

Pleater...do you see this effect when walking directly into the wind, or is it apparent at other wind angles as well?

Years ago I asked someone (it may have been Mr. Lowe at Stewart Christie) about having a Kingussie kilt run up, but he advised against it saying that too many gentlemen complained about the pleats lifting in the wind.

He then showed me a kilt destined for a customer in North America who had requested that the knife pleats be reversed, making it easier to slide behind the wheel of his Rolls-Royce. I was quite impressed-- I'd never seen a left hand drive kilt before.

[Tartan Hiker]

He then showed me a kilt destined for a customer in North America who had requested that the knife pleats be reversed, making it easier to slide behind the wheel of his Rolls-Royce. I was quite impressed-- I'd never seen a left hand drive kilt before.

Here's another one!



I made this one with reversed pleats for just that reason, but honestly I don't see much difference in the way it "sits" in my truck. (and learning how to sweep with my left hand has been somewhat annoying).

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Here's another one!



I made this one with reversed pleats for just that reason, but honestly I don't see much difference in the way it "sits" in my truck. (and learning how to sweep with my left hand has been somewhat annoying).

I wonder if that's because you have to climb up into the cab of a pick up truck, where you merely slide into a motorcar? Anyhow, I think it looks sharp.

[Pleater]

Ah well - if you will insist on driving on the wrong side of the road - naturally your pleats will run the wrong way. At least if you ever drive a car in the UK you'll not have any trouble.

I believe that the incident at the cross roads - (when my kilt blew up and diplayed a lot of lace liner edging and there was a shunt as a driver did not notice that the lights had changed to red) could have been due to the Kingussie pleating. I still have a couple of early kilts which I have never altered to the reverse or 'Ghillie' Kingussie style. The wind was from one side, but it always is very blustery there as it swirls around the open area in front of the parish church. It gives a kilt wings.

If you fold a strip of paper into a Kingussie style then pull gently on the centre fold you will see that it will open out very easily. It is probably the style of kilt for a runner to wear as it would tend to flow behind him rather than fall against his legs.

I find that the Ghillie Kingussie normally flys up even less than a knife pleated kilt as the folds tend to wrap around the body.

My kilts have evolved over the time I have been wearing them, and as I tended to use any material I had around at first, and remade them in different styles I know that the lighter ones in particular are far more stable in the Ghillie Kingussie style, even without the fell being sewn down. As I almost always wear the kilt as an outer layer there is a lot more brinkman ship about mine than most.

Combined with the reduced tendency to snag, having the pleats facing backwards on both sides is the style I have settled on and will be wearing from now on.

[BoldHighlander]

I still have a couple of early kilts which I have never altered to the reverse or 'Ghillie' Kingussie style. The wind was from one side, but it always is very blustery there as it swirls around the open area in front of the parish church. It gives a kilt wings.

If you fold a strip of paper into a Kingussie style then pull gently on the centre fold you will see that it will open out very easily. It is probably the style of kilt for a runner to wear as it would tend to flow behind him rather than fall against his legs.

I find that the Ghillie Kingussie normally flys up even less than a knife pleated kilt as the folds tend to wrap around the body.

'Ghillie' Kingussie?

[andyfg]

Very informative thread. Thanks to all contributors.

[Howard Clark]

I have made a couple of kilts in the reverse style with rear facing pleats and a large box pleat in the center, inside, so from the back it is all knife pleats that meet in the center. With heavy weight fabric, this is very stable in the wind, and does not snag up on things when out walking in the wood. Maybe not correctly stylish, but wide pleats, and minimal fabric worked out well for me in this style for wear about the shop (blacksmith) to work in.