"Celts" and "Picts" from Iberia

[gilmore]

Here is an article on the first humans to re-settle what are now the British Isles having come from the Iberian peninsuala and southwest France after the last Ice Age. Radiocarbon dating and genetics both support this conclusion.

http://my.opera.com/macedonians/blog...y-of-europeans

"ABSTRACT – Chronometric attention in the Late Glacial of Western Europe is turning from the dating of archaeological cultures to studying how the continent was re-populated at the end of the last ice age. We present results from a survey of all available radiocarbon determinations (the S2AGES database) which show that when calibrated, and compared to the GRIP stratotype of climatic events, the data can be interpreted as five population events in the 15ka prior to the onset of the Holocene. The fine-grained climate record provides an opportunity to study the impact of environmental factors on a human dispersal process that not only shaped subsequent European prehistory, but also the genetic makeup of modern Europeans. The population events have implications for archaeologists and molecular geneticists concerning the timing, direction, speed and scale of processes in Western European demographic history. The results also bear on the role of climatic forcing on the expansion and contraction of human populations and in particular the correlation of ice core and terrestrial records for the onset of warming in the North Atlantic."

[Maclachlan]

So that settles it then, yes? Maclachlan's were first to settle Scotland! I knew it all along!

[Ronusan]

Very interesting! Course us Cochrane's love to point out we're descended from a Viking in Renfrewshire anyway. ;)

And this is also another reason why it's not so strange that Carlos Nunez of Spain is called "The Jimi Hendrix of the Bagpipes." Another connection in Celtic and Spanish culture.

[beloitpiper]

Eh, us Gordons are Normans anyhow...

[The Wizard of BC]

I have just finished a couple of books that refer to the same migration patterns. They are looking at where did the people come from and not who was there first or who those people were in the Pict/Celt controversy.

The conclusions of the books is that the peoples who spoke Celtic languages are more closely related to the Basque speaking peoples of Spain than they are to any others.

[gilmore]

I have just finished a couple of books that refer to the same migration patterns. They are looking at where did the people come from and not who was there first or who those people were in the Pict/Celt controversy.

The conclusions of the books is that the peoples who spoke Celtic languages are more closely related to the Basque speaking peoples of Spain than they are to any others.

What are you reading?

[Jack Daw]

I had my Y-DNA tested to 67 markers a couple of years ago. The test indicated that I had a Celt-Iberian origin; from NE Spain where the Basques live today. Of course, the Celts migrated from much further east and deposited populations all along the way over several centuries.

[gilmore]

I had my Y-DNA tested to 67 markers a couple of years ago. The test indicated that I had a Celt-Iberian origin; from NE Spain where the Basques live today. Of course, the Celts migrated from much further east and deposited populations all along the way over several centuries.

"Celtic" describes culture. DNA is biological. They are 2 different things. While the Celtic culture may have come from eastern and central Europe, the ancestors of those who are now described as Celtic undoubtedly first came from the Iberian peninsula and Aquitaine.

Think about it. In another thread it was discussed how slaves of African ancestry in America came to speak Gaelic. Would they be genetically Celtic?

[Arlen]

The conclusions of the books is that the peoples who spoke Celtic languages are more closely related to the Basque speaking peoples of Spain than they are to any others.

That'll be why I like Idaho, then.
All that Basque food for the taking...

[Nick the DSM]

intresting but i sorta guessed that.