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    MacMillan modern black tartan

    This is from the MacMillan Clan Chief.

    "Have you any knowledge of a Branch member who likes to wear the MacMillan 'black' tartan?<snip>
    So far as I'm concerned, he can wear whatever he likes. But, if he tries to persuade others that it's an authentic MacMillan tartan, I suppose I'll have to disabuse him. "

    I'm afraid this would be me.

    The above is a direct quote from our Clan Chief.

    You MacMillans now are brought up to speed. The modern black is not recognized as official.
    I will continue to wear mine. I will let others know of the Clan Chief's descision.

    Jack/Fedgunner
    Commissioner of Clan Strachan, Central United States.

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    James MacMillan is offline Membership Revoked for repeated rule violations.
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    Aw gee, I'm crushed.

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    I'm more partial to our bright red and yellow tartan...MacMillian Dress I believe its called....high on my wish list.

    Can't picture what the black looks like, but the mere fact that its okay, but its not okay, makes me curious....

    Ron
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    "I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."

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    Here is what I found doing a search for MacMillian Black Tartan:


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    I like it.
    I think pleated to the black strip would set your chief off!
    Wallace Catanach, Kiltmaker

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    But, but...that looks like what Marton Mills sells as MacMillan....?

    This is getting both confusing and interesting.

    Ron
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    "I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."

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    That is what Marton Mills sells as MacMillan; it's simply a fashion variation. I don't know if they designed it themselves, or not, but apparantly whoever did so concieved of it without the cheif's blessing.

    This happens all the time, really. A tartan is popular, and so a mill will introduce some variation of it with a new twist. No big deal, so long as no one attempts to pass it off as a "clan tartan" when the cheif says otherwise.

    For instance, my co-worker at the museum wears a tartan we had custom woven for him called "Black MacGregor." It's based on the approved MacGregor clan tartan, with the main color changed to black. It is by no means a "clan tartan" -- it is a personal tartan he had woven for himself because he liked it. And he's never tried to push it as a clan tartan.

    That's all I read into the chief's statement above. It's not a clan tartan, and he doesn't want people misled into believing it is a clan tartan. As the clan chief, that is his perogative.

    Aye,
    Matt

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    But but...wasn't the point that its NOT okay so wouldn't be registered? And weirdly, only the dress and the hunting come up on the ferret....is that the point? That all the other common MacMillan tartans are bogus...?

    Where's our expert?...I have MacMillan blood but its thin.

    Ron

    Boy, ask and you shall recieve. Thanks Matt.

    And HEY! That makes the red and yellow dress MacMillan that I so covet "The Official Tartan!!" So instead of being a "rooster" in bright colors I can be "official."

    This has to be an uphill battle for the clan since I've surfed and googled looking for pics of the dress MacMillan on clan websites and just find the fashion MacMillan....
    Last edited by Riverkilt; 17th February 08 at 01:40 PM. Reason: A minute late
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    Okay foul!!

    Searching by name for MacMillan the STA only coughs up the hunting and the dress.

    Going to the alphabetical dropdown there are five or six MacMillan tartans, including a very black one that is listed as a mill tartan #3494.

    The MacMillan ancient # 6302 looks like what Marton Mills makes...and so that looks okay as a clan tartan. And there are some other nice looking variations.

    Dang ferret was holding out. Probably best to do my STA searches with the alphabet drop down now, just in case.

    Still hung up on the red and yellow dress tartan #1723.

    Ron
    Ol' Macdonald himself, a proud son of Skye and Cape Breton Island
    Lifetime Member STA. Two time winner of Utilikiltarian of the Month.
    "I'll have a kilt please, a nice hand sewn tartan, 16 ounce Strome. Oh, and a sporran on the side, with a strap please."

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