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20th February 08, 04:35 PM
#11
Originally Posted by beloitpiper
Gillie brogues, in my opinion, look like a relic of the Victoria age that should've stayed there. For dressy or formal events I always wear buckled shoes or standard brogues (with tongues).
Originally Posted by McClef
Well I for one like them!
But it's one of those things that is down to the personal preference factor.
Originally Posted by Darkislander
The brogues are still given as standard at kilt hire shops here in Scotland. The only thing that has changed recently is the style of tie worn.
The ghillies are definitely still the standard but even as staunch a traditionalist as I am I wonder if this will slowly change. I do like them, but oddly I like wearing my brown ones during the day even more than I do my black ones in the evening.
More men are wearing shoes other than ghillies so it is certainly becoming common to see it. I have done it myself occasionally. I've done it when travelling to avoid taking extra shoes but also for comfort when my feet are giving me problems. I still prefer ghillies but the truth is I would rather see a nice pair of polished black shoes over a pair of cheap looking ghillies.
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20th February 08, 04:36 PM
#12
I like my brogues.
as to opinions, I like this quote, I'm not sure who said it first, but the sentiment stands.
"A man's opinion is like his dog. I should be allowed to admire it without being forced to take it home with me."
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20th February 08, 04:47 PM
#13
It looks like you've got some great advice from these fellows. Enjoy the new kilt!
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20th February 08, 06:13 PM
#14
You've gotten all the opinions you need. The advice is good. So I'll just say--- from someone else in deepest, darkest Denver. You now need to attend one of our little get togethers.
(Oh yeah- and I personally love the look of Ghillies. I don't have a pair yet, but I will soon!)
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20th February 08, 07:31 PM
#15
Thanks for the answers guys.
BTW the shoes are Ghillie Brogues or just Brogues, a Ghillie is a Scottish gamekeeper/ or retainer. Ghillies are/ were so good at their trade [huntin stuff] that the British Army started recruiting them in WWI [the Land Warriors will correct my feeble memory] as snipers/ special forces and the forces still wear Ghillie Suits.
We now return to our regularly scheduled thread. I love it here
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21st February 08, 07:02 PM
#16
Your correct about the "other" definition of ghillie, but the shoes are ghillie brogues or "ghillies".
A brogue (when referring to shoes) generally refers to a leather shoe decorated with perforations and serrated leather.
Ghillies (when referring to shoes) refers to a shoe with no tongue and decorative laces. A ballet shoe would also be a form of a ghillie. However ghillie brogues are commonly referred to as "ghillies".
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23rd February 08, 02:05 AM
#17
Originally Posted by Cerebite
Thanks for the answers guys.
BTW the shoes are Ghillie Brogues or just Brogues, a Ghillie is a Scottish gamekeeper/ or retainer. Ghillies are/ were so good at their trade [huntin stuff] that the British Army started recruiting them in WWI [the Land Warriors will correct my feeble memory] as snipers/ special forces and the forces still wear Ghillie Suits.
We now return to our regularly scheduled thread. I love it here
The regiment you have in mind is/was The Lovat Scouts and whilst they did indeed do sterling service in both World Wars, I think and I stand to be corrected here,that they were formed during the Boer War.
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23rd February 08, 02:54 AM
#18
Originally Posted by Jock Scot
The regiment you have in mind is/was The Lovat Scouts and whilst they did indeed do sterling service in both World Wars, I think and I stand to be corrected here,that they were formed during the Boer War.
You'd be correct
The Lovat Scouts were formed in January 1900 for service in the Second Boer War by Simon Joseph Fraser, 16th Lord Lovat (he was authorized to raise them in 1899).
More info on this unit can be found at:
http://www.qohldrs.co.uk/html/lovat_scouts.htm
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