De-Anglicisation of Names

**slohairt** · 2nd March 08, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by ForresterModern

Maybe an easy one for a change.

Foster, probably from Forrester, reportedly a sept of either the MacDonald and/or Douglas clans, and supposedly from the West Lothian region of the lowlands or North Umberland area of extreme northern England.

See Post #256.

**BoldHighlander** · 2nd March 08, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by slohairt

Technically, Paddy is Anglicised from Páidí, a pet form of Pádraig. Pádraig is the Irish form of the Latin name Patricius, while Patrick is the English form.

Back in '84 I named my son Patrick Ian (two of my favorite names)

My daughter's is Shannon Morgan. I know you touched upon Morgan earlier.

You have Pádraig above, how would you write both their names (first & middle) in the Irish?

Thanks.

**Frank McGrath** · 2nd March 08, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by slohairt

A Fhrainc,

MCGRATH Also MacGrath,, Magrath, Magragh, MacGragh, Megrath, Magraw, MacGraw, Megraw, MacGra, McCreach, MacRay, MacRea, MacCraith, MacCray, MacCrea, MacWray, Rea McCraye, or McCragh. This bewildering array of Anglicisations are all derived from the same Gaelic surname, Mac Raith (archaic form Mag Raith), pronounced MAK RA. It means son of Rath, a personal which, in turn means gracious. It can be of either Scottish or Irish origin.

GOSNELL I believe this is an Anglo-Saxon topographical name. Gosa's or Gos's Knell?

GALTEN ?

JONES *What's new, pussycat? Whoa-whoa...* Sorry! I couldn't resist! This is a Welsh name, of course, derived from John, with the terminal 's' denoting son of. I believe in Welsh it is rendered Ap Siôn. In Irish, it is rendered Mac Seoin, pronounced MAC SHOAN.

BOONE As in Daniel or Pat? Possibly Norman, derived from Bohun?

As to the Boone Surname, It was my Grandmother's maiden name. We are related to a Daniel Boone, but not the one of fame.
Gosnell is an old family name in Carroll County, Md. I do have a few in the tree. There was a small town named Gosnell in the county, but now it is just a Geographical name to and area. The jones comment was the exact same comment I mad when my stepdaughter told us of her upcoming nuptuals to Tom Jones. (The physicist, not the singer). Galten is my wife's maiden name, possibly from Germany of Denmark. I figured it may have traveled to the UK. Thanks.. I really enjoyed this thread.

Frank Son of Rath

**slohairt** · 3rd March 08, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

Back in '84 I named my son Patrick Ian (two of my favorite names)

My daughter's is Shannon Morgan. I know you touched upon Morgan earlier.

You have Pádraig above, how would you write both their names (first & middle) in the Irish?

Thanks.

Patrick As I mentioned in that post, Pádraig is the Irish form of the Latin name, Patricius, while Patrick is the English form. The Scottish Gaelic form (In case you're wondering) is Pàdruig. Pronounced the same as the Irish, PAW-DRICK.

Ian from Iain, the Scottish Gaelic form of John. While people may pronounce their names however they like, Iain is technically pronounced EE-UN, not EYE-IN like the actor Ian Zierling. The vowel combination ia is always pronounced as EE-UH in the Gaelic language family. In English, of course, it usually isn't. Some examples include Brian, which is really pronounced BREE-UN, and Ryan (from Rian, pronounced REE-UN).

Shannon The name Shannon is not often found in Ireland, believe it or not. It tends to be thought of as an Irish-American name, along with Colleen and Erin. (from Cailín and Éireann respectively). The River Shannon (An tSionainn) derives its name from Sionainn, a spirit or goddess in Irish mythology. Thus, the Irish form would be Sionainn, pronounced SHIN-IN.

Morgan Muirghean, is often the Irish form of the name. Pronounced MwIR-YEN.

**slohairt** · 3rd March 08, 07:46 AM

Tá fáilte romhat, A Fhrainc Mac Raith!

**BoldHighlander** · 3rd March 08, 01:21 PM

Thanks

**dowofbuchanan** · 21st March 08, 06:31 PM

hey i went pretty far reading through the thread and my last name is dow ... it has been on the books as dow in scotland since 1525 as far as i can find ... any ideas as to a meaning and a proper pronounciation here in the us its always DOW OW as in a hurt finger or such but i hear in the uk it is pronounced doe or doo my only lead on the meaning is an interpretation of dove meaning we are peaceful aparrantly well any thoughts are apreciated

**slohairt** · 21st March 08, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by dowofbuchanan

hey i went pretty far reading through the thread and my last name is dow ... it has been on the books as dow in scotland since 1525 as far as i can find ... any ideas as to a meaning and a proper pronounciation here in the us its always DOW OW as in a hurt finger or such but i hear in the uk it is pronounced doe or doo my only lead on the meaning is an interpretation of dove meaning we are peaceful aparrantly well any thoughts are apreciated

DOW From the Gaelic Dubh meaning black, or in this case, dark coloured. (hair, complexion, etc.) It's the same name as Duff. Dubh is alternately pronounced as Duv or Doo, depending on regional dialect. It can also be a shortened Anglicisation of Mac Duibh, meaning son of the dark. This, however, is usually Anglicised as MacDuff.