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    Celtic DNA - Hemochromatosis

    While on the subject of DNA, I should mention the blood disorder called hemochromatosis. Most people have never heard of this disorder, and very few physicians even understand it.
    Due to my nephew developing this disorder (& almost dying from it) my family has become very aware of the disorder. From the info I have seen if you are of Celtic origin it is reported that 1 in 4 carry the gene. However I don't wish to be an alarmist. If you do have hemochromatosis, it is not a death sentence unless you do not take care of yourself.

    I had the blood test & found I do not have it, however I could still be a carrier of the mutated gene and pass it along to my children. Unfortuantly, do to the high cost of a DNA test I am going round & round with my doctor to test, because of the insurance companies balking. So be forewarned, unless you show symptoms, your insurance company maynot wish for the tests to be carried out.

    This from my sister who has studied the disorder, along with a link with more info:

    "a person has to inherit two copies of the hemochromatosis gene to develop severe symptoms. Everyone has two HFE genes, but a person with hereditary hemochromatosis has inherited two mutated genes from each parent (mutation of chromosome 6 in the HFE gene). Basically every child of a parent that has HHC has a 50% chance of inheriting the disease only if the other parent has the mutated gene as well. So, it isn't one parents "fault" (not that there is any fault at all). Hemochromatosis is the most common genetic disorder affecting every 1 in 200 to 400 people.
    If you are of Celtic origin 1 in every 4 people carry the gene for this disease.

    If both parents have the gene, each of their children have a 50% chance of getting this disease - thus Anthony does not have it and Marcus does. A parent can have the mutated gene and be a "carrier" but they will not develp any symptoms as they are only a carrier of the gene. If your spouse also carries the gene then your children have a 50% chance of getting the disease.

    Does this kind of make sense? A website that is fairley good with some diagrams and such on the cells, etc. (if you are interested) is
    : http://www.yourgenesyourhealth.org/hc/whatisit.htm "
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    Hmm.... lower than average body temp.. Check. Wider feet.. Check. "Big" toes same length as the second toe.. Check. Some red in the beard... Check. Well, that sounds scientific enough for what I already knew.

    In and amongst other things ancestors of Scottish, Welsh, Scotch-Irish, Norman, German, and American Indian orgins I do consider myself at least partly celtic in orgin. Think that being celtic for me is as much a mindset as an actual lineage after you get the basic American "heinz-57" mix going on for several generations!

    On that note, I will get to wear my new kilt to our local Burns' night tomorrow evening.

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    well my second toes are just over 1/4 inch longer than the first on both feet my 3rd toes are the same as big to im prehensile my feet are 5 inches wide (read flinstone by me exes) my body temp is between 96.5 and 97 and while i have brown hair and black beard i have a red goatee and moustache im also 6'1 at rest my hands look like im holding a beer can but i can if i try straighten them so i dont know about that however my grandmothers family tree project goes back to scotland so its all a mute point really i found a dna project for the dow males and its 189 for a 37 panel 148 for a 25 and 269 for a 67 panel which is really what i need for the money ? i also think that beer should look like coffee but that may ne besides the point
    Reverend Chevalier Christopher Adam Dow II KStI

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    I've never paid that much attention to other people's feet, so I assumed everyone's second toe was as long as the first. Mine are, like some others here, just a bit longer than the big toe.

    I don't have the fat feet that some others here describe, however.
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    This sounds to me like more race theory from Europe that'll do more harm than good. I would also like to say that the term "Celtic" is so vaporous and broad that it seems kinda silly to have a marker like the big toe.

    But it does sound like a fun test, lol. I checked. I seem about even.
    Last edited by Roan Carter; 15th March 08 at 02:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roan Carter View Post
    This sounds to me like more race theory from Europe that'll do more harm than good. I would also like to say that the term "Celtic" is so vaporous and broad that it seems kinda silly to have a marker like the big toe.

    But it does sound like a fun test, lol. I checked. I seem about even.
    People with even toes always think that things like this are European race theories. Check it out.

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    My big toe is a bit longer than my second. Since I know the majority of my people come from Ireland, Scotland, Wales, England, and France, I am not to concerned about my kilt wearing credentials.

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    Yup, same length toes.

    AND wide feet. What I CANNOT understand is WHY ghillie brogue makers make their brogues in NARROW sizes.

    Doesn't anyone research the obvious???

    Rant Rave!

    Its bad enough few shoes are made in wide sizes anymore...like us wide footed Scots are supposed to go barefoot...but for TRADITIONAL wear you'd think they'd make the brogues in TRADTIONAL foot sizes.

    They gotta be missing a LOT of sales... and wondering why their brogues don't sell.

    HELLO ghillie brogue makers....I need a 4E minimum please - and that's gonna be snug on me with kilt hose.

    Sulking off to nourish a resentment....

    Ron
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    9.5EE No Ebay deals for me. LL Bean and Danner are my friends though..

    Big toes shorter on both feet. Gibbon arms.

    Reddish brown beard, but only on the neck. The remainder never comes in.

    Too bad my mom slipped some Hungarian and Slovak into me, or I'd be 6'2" or taller like all the others. Atleast 5'10" is the tallest on her side.

    Huge skull.

    My boy lucked out. He popped out with red hair just like his mom. Now it's blonde. Same feet as me, just smaller. Big noggin too.



    Kevin out.
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    Red hair... Green eyes... Celtic toes... What are my chances of having Celtic ancestors with all three features?
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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