Michael Collins

[ccga3359]

I've recently added this to my collection (also Rob Roy) as I enjoy Liam Neeson's work. Alan Ryckman is also superb and really does make the quintessential 'villian'. From what I understand the film maker didn't take great liberties with the truth. It does raise the question of how Ireland would have been different had Micheal Collins had lived. It also show the many different factions of Irish and Northern Irish politics. I do have to question the casting of Julia Roberts but I guess including her helped sell the movie this side of the Atlantic.

[Galician]

As someone who has made a study of Irish names, I find it interesting that both Éamon de Valera and Éamonn Ceannt chose the form Éamon(n) as the Irish form of their name. Éamon(n) is the Irish form of Edmund, while Éadbhárd is the actual Irish form of Edward. (Their real names.) Perhaps they felt, in the first decade of the 20th Century, that 'Edward' in any form was too "British' of a name.

Now I'm confused. There was a teacher in my high school with tthat name, and always told us that it was Irish for David. Have I remembered wrong?

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Now I'm confused. There was a teacher in my high school with tthat name, and always told us that it was Irish for David. Have I remembered wrong?

Daithi is David in Irish.

[MacMillan of Rathdown]

Though born in England, Rickman's father was Irish, and his mother was Welsh.

And Dev was born in the USA. As an aside, having served in the Department of Art, Culture, etc. for two years while Sile de Valera (grand daughter of "The Boss") was Minister, I do not recall her ever using the Irish version of her (presumably) Spanish last name.

[slohairt]

Dáibhid, Dáibhidh, and Daibhéid are other forms of David as well as Dáithí.

I don't think Dev used the 'Gaelicised' spelling of his surname (de Bhailéara) much, if at all, either. It was probably reserved for a few Irish language plaques, literature, or monuments.

[beloitpiper]

I just bought the DVD a few weeks ago. Really great film. The Wind That Shakes The Barley is really good too, and shows the tensions within the Irish population better, in my opinion.

[BoldHighlander]

I just bought the DVD a few weeks ago. Really great film. The Wind That Shakes The Barley is really good too, and shows the tensions within the Irish population better, in my opinion.

Indeed.
I found it (The Wind That Shakes The Barley) to be a pretty brutal film to watch in comparison to Michael Collins.

The only thing I question about The Wind That Shakes The Barley is the badge worn on the Balmorals of the Black & Tans. I have a number of photographs of actual Black & Tans, and none are shown wearing any sort of badge upon their bonnets (which is how the Black & Tans are depicted in Michael Collins).
Other than that an excellent film.

[macwilkin]

Indeed.
I found it (The Wind That Shakes The Barley) to be a pretty brutal film to watch in comparison to Michael Collins.

The only thing I question about The Wind That Shakes The Barley is the badge worn on the Balmorals of the Black & Tans. I have a number of photographs of actual Black & Tans, and none are shown wearing any sort of badge upon their bonnets (which is how the Black & Tans are depicted in Michael Collins).
Other than that an excellent film.

I seem to remember seeing a picture of some tans or Auxies wearing a badge on the balmorals, but I can't remember where I saw it. Let me do some digging...

T.

[BoldHighlander]

I seem to remember seeing a picture of some tans or Auxies wearing a badge on the balmorals, but I can't remember where I saw it. Let me do some digging...

T.

I knew if someone here might know of such you would Todd

I'd be interested in what you might find.
Thanks.

[ccga3359]

I just bought the DVD a few weeks ago. Really great film. The Wind That Shakes The Barley is really good too, and shows the tensions within the Irish population better, in my opinion.

Sounds interesting so I ordered The Wind That Shakes The Barley. I trust it is a honest look at that particular period of time and not just anti-English claptrap. Afterall my wife blamed me for what happen to Mel Gibson in that one particular movie.