well rob roy is one option im looking at but the tooling ability was there incase i wanted to be able to stamp anything on it such as a clan badge on the flap or the like ... i want to have abilities to play around ... a side hide of lambskin which is the garment leather i was looking at is around 6-7 sq ft ... so im looking at 2 the reason i was looking at such heavy leather is im used to seeing old harleys with worn saddle bags looking ready to pop ... i wanna make this durable enough to outlast me