Are Clergy and Clark the same tartan?

[Scotus]

... ordained into the lower Orders (grades/levels) of the clergy (now abolished in the Roman Cathoic Church)

Not exactly. Communities devoted to the extraordinary form of the Roman rite (FSSP, Institute of Christ the King, etc.) still have these minor orders. One became a cleric (clark) when one was tonsured.

[Ozman1944]

I started out as Cleric.
The old 'orders' were; Cleric, Porter/Door keeper, Lector/Reader, Exorcist, Acolyte, Subdeacon, Deacon, Priest, Bishop.

Clergy in 'Clergy' Tartan.

[Tony]

Not exactly. Communities devoted to the extraordinary form of the Roman rite (FSSP, Institute of Christ the King, etc.) still have these minor orders. One became a cleric (clark) when one was tonsured.

Dang, I got it backwards! I started out a Clark, and am rapidly approaching tonsured status through DNA rather than religion.

[KGCTJ]

I also want a Solid Black Tartan for Clergy or solid colors are something I wondered about as a plaid is sometimes difficult to make and sometimes hard to distinguish, a Solid Color would be easier and I think the Kakhi

Great Article From MAtt's article with exception of this statement:
"Keep in mind that until the Reformation of the sixteenth century, all of Scotland was Catholic" The Orthodox Churchs have been there 1600 years or so.

This is absurd there are and were many other religions at that time and Now.
Here is Matt's previous article that refutes the claim that Scotland was ever all catholic
http://www.albanach.org/shorthist.html

[Panache]

Lets please keep this thread on track as a discussion of the Clergy/Clark tartan. We do have rules regarding religion and while the PM system is available for those that wish to discuss it, the open forum is not.

Cheers

Jamie

[Nighthawk]

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.albanach.org/clergy_tartan.htm

Yours aye,

Todd

Wow! Thanks for that! What an interesting read. I actually have two kilts in two different Clergy tartans- I have a Sport Kilt in the Clergy ancient, and a USAK in the Clergy modern. I've been a bit curious where the two patterns came from.

[michaelbeeman]

I am looking at getting a Clergy tartan kilt, and was confused about the variations. Matt's article cleared that up, as usual.

[Galician]

Wow! Thanks for that! What an interesting read. I actually have two kilts in two different Clergy tartans- I have a Sport Kilt in the Clergy ancient, and a USAK in the Clergy modern. I've been a bit curious where the two patterns came from.

Nighthawk, do you see a big difference in the patterns? I have a Clergy from Sport Kilt, and it is pretty similar to a tank from Scotland which I have in the same tartan. I didn't think that SK did different shades like Ancient.

The one I have from the Frugal Corner, on the other hand, is very bright in fluorescent light.

[Nighthawk]

Nighthawk, do you see a big difference in the patterns? I have a Clergy from Sport Kilt, and it is pretty similar to a tank from Scotland which I have in the same tartan. I didn't think that SK did different shades like Ancient.

The one I have from the Frugal Corner, on the other hand, is very bright in fluorescent light.

"The official Clergy Ancient tartan!" From SK's website. Yes, it's different. The one I have from USAK is the same as the one from Frugal corner... only not nearly as neon.

[Nighthawk]

Nighthawk, do you see a big difference in the patterns? I have a Clergy from Sport Kilt, and it is pretty similar to a tank from Scotland which I have in the same tartan. I didn't think that SK did different shades like Ancient.

The one I have from the Frugal Corner, on the other hand, is very bright in fluorescent light.

If you helps you out any, here are a few pictures of my USAK. It's a semi trad.