Appropriate Footwear

[macneighill]

A Civil War brogue would again be an anachronism but a Revolutionary War shoe would not.

Being a Civil War reenactor, I have a few different pairs of period shoes (replicas) and, they really don't fit the "Jacobite" era. Mostly what I have are some type of oxford. These are what Officers mostly wore. The enlistedmen usually wore brogans. So, I would have to agree on the colonial era buckle shoe.

[Finn]

I'm with DWFII on the historical aspect.
The brogans look good and should blend well with the outfit (with the above-pictured tartan wrap).
Here is something more accurate:
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...7a1dad5423201a
I've done business with them and have found them reputable.

[DWFII]

Here's a photo of a "21st century" Jacobite shoe--a shoe that is contemporary in fit and construction but that is modeled off mid 18th century footwear. If recall correctly, I have seen several painting of highlanders from that era and almost to a man they are wearing something similar.

[Finn]

Here's another option for a sutler:
http://www.smoke-fire.com/shoes-boots-1.asp
These are really good people.

[Glamrockdj]

Here's a photo of a "21st century" Jacobite shoe--a shoe that is contemporary in fit and construction but that is modeled off mid 18th century footwear. If recall correctly, I have seen several painting of highlanders from that era and almost to a man they are wearing something similar.

That's a fantastic looking shoe but I don't think I'd be marching into battle with them on, I recall seeing some drawings of a Jacobite who was found in a bog and was quite well preserved and that's where the brogan type boot came from, I'll need to look for it as it had diagrams etc, some photos too.

I'd wear that shoe for a more dressier occasion, very nice.

[DWFII]

Well,

At Culloden and elsewhere I am sure you would have seen many different types of footwear and even barefeet (especially as hardpressed and worn out as the Jacobites were)...just as you might have in 1776 and the Revolutionary War. But buckle shoes were the norm even for poor folk if they had shoes at all.

But Prince Charlie would have been (and is seen in several paintings) wearing them as well as many of the Clan chieftans. A good many of the figures shown on the STA site ...I'm guess from paintings made around 1822...are wearing buckle shoes.

Here are two of probably two dozen images from the Jacobite period of highland soldiers:

The first is a Highland Soldier (might be the title) painted in 1744

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The second is a Grenadier in the 42nd foot circa 1751



This second one was done by David Morier...if I've got the details correct and it was he who painted the rather famous painting of the Battle of Culloden.

As I say, I have a slew of these images...all pointing to the fact that many highlanders did indeed go into battle in a pair of buckle shoes.

As for the brogans in the drawing...there is an alternative explanation: many times a buckle would break or be lost and rather than go to the expense of replacing it, the latchets would be cut short and holes punched in the ends. A lace was then run through those holes effectively making a shoe that would very much look like a brogan to casual inspection or an untutored eye.

[Glamrockdj]

Well,

At Culloden and elsewhere I am sure you would have seen many different types of footwear and even barefeet (especially as hardpressed and worn out as the Jacobites were)...just as you might have in 1776 and the Revolutionary War. But buckle shoes were the norm even for poor folk if they had shoes at all.

But Prince Charlie would have been (and is seen in several paintings) wearing them as well as many of the Clan chieftans. A good many of the figures shown on the STA site ...I'm guess from paintings made around 1822...are wearing buckle shoes.

Here are two of probably two dozen images from the Jacobite period of highland soldiers:

The first is a Highland Soldier (might be the title) painted in 1744

.

The second is a Grenadier in the 42nd foot circa 1751



This second one was done by David Morier...if I've got the details correct and it was he who painted the rather famous painting of the Battle of Culloden.

As I say, I have a slew of these images...all pointing to the fact that many highlanders did indeed go into battle in a pair of buckle shoes.

As for the brogans in the drawing...there is an alternative explanation: many times a buckle would break or be lost and rather than go to the expense of replacing it, the latchets would be cut short and holes punched in the ends. A lace was then run through those holes effectively making a shoe that would very much look like a brogan to casual inspection or an untutored eye.

I'm not doubting your historical acumen, when I said I don't think I'd be wearing those shoes into battle, I meant me present day!!

Your explanation about the brogan style mix up makes interesting reading too, thanks for that.

[Glamrockdj]

I'm with DWFII on the historical aspect.
The brogans look good and should blend well with the outfit (with the above-pictured tartan wrap).
Here is something more accurate:
http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...7a1dad5423201a
I've done business with them and have found them reputable.

They are very nice Finn, thanks for that, I may well order a pair of these and have them delivered to my mother inlaw's in New Hampshire, also thanks for all the help and comments, I'm learning something ne every day.

[Robertson]

http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=244
How about this? This is what I have look & feel great..
Sorry already posted..jumped a page...anyway I agree good shoe

[Jack Daw]

For the sake of auhenticity, remember that shoes in 1745/6 were not distinctive for left and right foot. I have a pair of fugawees that can be made in the original fashion, by gum. If you are into doing it right; then do so!