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                                                14th July 08, 08:41 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by Pleater   Can someone translate what we are looking at here?
 I can't 'read the stickers' of foreign ranks and units.
 
 
 Baroness Anne the mirthful of Fritterton on the Heath
 From associated Article
 
 Round Rock, Texas native Master Sgt. Clifford Lindell (right), non-commissioned officer in charge of operations, 1st Cavalry Division, congratulates his boss, British Army Maj. John Russell, chief of operations, 1st Cav. Div., who hails from Chalford, Gloucestershire, England, after a ceremony July 3 at Fort Hood, Texas in which Russell received the Order of St. Maurice medallion."
 
 
 
 
 American Sgt Major is wearing: Combat Infantryman's Badge, Bronze Star (with V device to denote awarded in a combat zone), Meritorious Service Medal, Army Commendation Medal (multiple awards), Army Achievement Medal, Good Conduct Medal, National Defense (sic) Service Medal, Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal, Iraq Campaign Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Korean Defense (sic) Service Medal, Armed Forces Service Medal, NCO Professional Development Medal, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbon, NATO Medal.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th July 08, 08:42 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	The "cav hats" as pictured are largely a ceremonial thing these days, worn by Cavalry units who trace their lineage back to the old horse cavalry; I had a friend in university who served with the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment who had his "cav hat" hanging on his apartment wall.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Jock Scot   Well I suppose those wide brims will stop the rain getting in when they are swanning around the countryside in their tanks(not talking about kilts here!) with the hatches open!Sorry all, I am only jealous, I had to march!   
 Ironically, the "cav hat" itself is really more of a modern-style hat; the US Army only wore one black slouch hat during the Indian campaigns, the exception being private purchase civilian slouch hats and straw boater affairs:
 
 http://www.andersonmilitaria.com/Web...r/headgear.htm
 
 The M1872 campaign hat had hook-and-eyes on the brim to allow the brim to be folded up, a la a "fore-and-aft" hat.
 
 After several experimental models, In 1889, the US Army adopted another campaign hat, the M1889:
 
 http://www.eureka-arsenal.com/IMAGES/chat2h.jpg
 
 This was the hat worn during the Spanish-American and Philippine Wars; during the later conflict, soldiers began to adopt the famous "Montana Peak" and thus created the ancestor of the "DI/Smokey Bear" hat worn today.
 
 Regards,
 
 Todd
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th July 08, 09:57 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thanks for the information - the major will be a Peregrinous (?) of the Order, then.
 From his expression - to answer the question - no, I don't think that the hat will catch on. I am sure he will treasure it always, he just can't wait to take it off.
 
 The US still dresses its soldiers better than the UK.
 
 Baroness Anne the mirthful of Fritterton on the Heath
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th July 08, 10:07 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Can't agree with that one, neither would a friend of mine who is a former paratrooper serving with the Missouri National Guard. He constantly lamented how the Brits and Commonwealth forces retained regimental customs and traditions better than the Yanks.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Pleater   The US still dresses its soldiers better than the UK.
 
 Baroness Anne the mirthful of Fritterton on the Heath
 
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                                                14th July 08, 10:09 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	Much as I hate to disagree with you, but nevertheless ,I disagree! I am rather proud of our British uniforms and happen to think we dress our soldiers rather well in comparison.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Pleater   Thanks for the information - the major will be a Peregrinous (?) of the Order, then.
 From his expression - to answer the question - no, I don't think that the hat will catch on. I am sure he will treasure it always, he just can't wait to take it off.
 The US still dresses its soldiers better than the UK.
 
 Baroness Anne the mirthful of Fritterton on the Heath
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th July 08, 10:35 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by Pleater   The US still dresses its soldiers better than the UK.
 Bobbins, however there is no accounting for individual taste!!
 
 When was the last time you watched the Queen's Birthday Parade for starters??
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th July 08, 10:35 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					  Originally Posted by cajunscot   He constantly lamented how the Brits and Commonwealth forces retained regimental customs and traditions better than the Yanks.
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                                                14th July 08, 10:44 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	IMHO the only US military that comes close to dressing as well as the UK are the Marines, especially when it comes to dress and ceremonial uniforms.\.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Pleater   The US still dresses its soldiers better than the UK.
 
 
 Brian
  In a democracy it's your vote  that counts; in feudalism, it's your Count that votes.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th July 08, 10:58 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	oorah!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by BEEDEE   IMHO the only US military that comes close to dressing as well as the UK are the Marines, especially when it comes to dress and ceremonial uniforms.\.
 Brian
 
 In my opinion, no uniform comes close to the dress blues of the US Marine Corps.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                14th July 08, 11:14 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	I really liked wearing my dress greens with jump boots on but I have to admit the marine dress uniforms look really nice.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by BEEDEE   IMHO the only US military that comes close to dressing as well as the UK are the Marines, especially when it comes to dress and ceremonial uniforms.\.
 Brian
 I have always tempered my killing with respect for the game pursued.  I see the animal not only as a target but as a living creature with more freedom than I will ever have.  I take that life if I can, with regret as well as joy, and with the sure knowledge that nature's ways of fang and claw or exposure and starvation are a far crueler fate than I bestow. - Fred Bear
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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