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                                                21st July 08, 04:52 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			A friend would like some facts about pants
		
			
				
					I have a new friend who has never heard of a kilt, I first met her while kilted and she asked why I was wearing it. I explained a bit about the kilt, she did some research on her own, and she now understands our addiction. What I would like (she has asked for) are some facts as to the origin of pants.
 Anyone have any facts as to where, when, and why pants originated?
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                21st July 08, 04:58 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Ian, this may be a start. I hope it will help some??
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                21st July 08, 05:00 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					It is wiki, so I can't attest to it's accuracy, but here you go...
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                21st July 08, 05:15 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thank you. I wasn't sure if I could trust information that could be easily edited by anyone at any time.
 My friend is really getting into this:
 
 "Did you know that the big kilt was also used for bedding and toweling off after a bath?"
 
 That's what she told me today
   
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                21st July 08, 08:24 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					http://www.german-hosiery-museum.de/...struempfe.html
 This seems like as good a place as any to start, just came across this site, navigation is a bit confusing, but it explains what men were wearing before trousers and how they evolved into the pants we know and love
  Now i need to find a codpiece like Blackadder wore.
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                22nd July 08, 08:55 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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	It sounds like she's got the bit between her teeth!  Good for you for getting her interested in kilts.  She might be interested in you as well!
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by ardchoille   My friend is really getting into this: 
"Did you know that the big kilt was also used for bedding and toweling off after a bath?"
  
That's what she told me today     "Touch not the cat bot a glove."
 
	
	
		
                        
                                
                                        
                                                24th July 08, 10:48 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I believe it's safe to say that trousers are prehistoric. They may not predate all of recorded history, but they predate most, if not all of the recorded history of Europe.  
 As there is no known historical record of the "invention" of trousers, we can't really say we know why trousers were invented. That said, given that the earliest evidence of trousers comes from the same part of the world where the horse is believed to have been domesticated (Eastern Europe and Central Asia), the conclusion that trousers were developed to facilitate riding horseback is as inescapable as it is reasonable.
 
 I'm not terribly familiar with historical references or archaeological artifacts relating to trousers, but given the peoples who (according to Wikipedia, at least) were among the earliest known to have worn trousers (the Scythians and the Persians), trousers must have existed since about 500 BC, at the latest, in Central Asia. From the Qin Emperor's terracotta army, we know that Chinese cavalry soldiers were wearing trousers since at least 210 BC. (Again, there might be earlier Chinese references that I am unaware of.) The mummy of Taklamakan known as "Cherchen Man" (ca. 1200 BC) apparently wore tartan "leggings", but I don't know if these "leggings" constituted trousers. I assume, if he had worn trousers, that I would have seen the word "trousers" used instead of "leggings".
 
 Regarding pipe23's link, showing the development of modern trousers from medieval hose, I think it's important to point out that the tight hose of the High Middle Ages itself developed from earlier, looser trousers.
 
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
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