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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian07663NJ View Post
    If you go to google and type in "postal, kilt" you will find a lot of online articles related to this.

    However, this link http://www.asylum.com/2008/07/23/goi...-to-wear-kilt/ already has some negative feedback...maybe we should go there and post some support?
    The negativity is predictably of the men in skirts or "kilts" if he wants to call them that variety. Yeah, I had to make a post about that one. The kilt in quotation marks thing annoyed me- like we just pulled the term out of our butts three months ago or something.
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    Here is another article on the issue.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4407120.ece

    It seems that the proposal did not receive majority support , but Dean is forging ahead. I wish you godspeed.

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    Here's an excellent follow up:


    Lacey mail carrier lobbies for kilt equality

    A Lacey man, Dean Peterson, vows to fight for his right to wear a kilt on his appointed rounds as a U.S. Postal Service mail carrier.

    By Erik Lacitis

    Seattle Times staff reporter


    Dean Peterson, a letter carrier, models a prototype kilt uniform that remains unapproved by the U.S. Postal Service. Peterson started wearing kilts a couple of years ago and loves them: "It's like a breeze blowing through the house."


    Until last week, Dean Peterson was just a relatively anonymous 48-year-old mail carrier.

    Then he went to Boston and nervously introduced a resolution to include kilts as an official uniform option for male Postal Service carriers.

    And even though his pitch to the National Association of Letter Carriers convention failed, Peterson now has gone worldwide.

    While Peterson and his wife, Joni, were in Boston, their two teenage sons back home were fielding phone calls. Peterson was all over the media, in print, on TV and the Internet in North America, Great Britain, India — pretty much anywhere that has some cultural knowledge of that Gaelic tradition.

    "American postmen get dressed to kilt," headlined The Times of London.

    Now Peterson has returned to Lacey and was nervous about showing up for work today at the Olympia postal branch, from which he delivers mail to 945 customers.

    "I'm like, is my job still waiting?" he says.

    "Like a breeze blowing through the house"

    Of course, how Peterson came to be passionate about kilts — of all things — has to have an unusual history.

    Peterson spent 22 years and three months in the Air Force and retired as a master sergeant. Five years ago, he got the job as a mail carrier.

    So he's familiar with government bureaucracies and knows that bureaucracies aren't much for things out of the ordinary.



    He's a guy with a Norwegian/Finn ancestry. And until a couple of years ago, he hadn't much thought about kilts one way or another.

    It all began, really, because of his wife.

    Joni Peterson has been a longtime fan of Scottish actor Gerard Butler. He played the well-buffed King Leonidas in the recent film "300."

    She's such a fan, in fact, that a couple of years ago Joni went to Scotland on a trip organized by a Web site for Butler fans.

    Joni returned with a traditional tartan kilt as a present for her husband.

    He had never worn a kilt before.

    He tried it on.

    He liked it.

    Peterson is a big, muscular guy who is 6 feet tall and weighs in at 250 pounds.

    With pants, he says, "Because I have big thighs, the skin rubs, and you get that scarring, you know, where little bits of skin protrude?"

    But a kilt, he says, "It's like a breeze blowing through the house."

    Reaction from public

    In the summer of 2006, Peterson decided to go public with his kilt. He and his wife went to his postal union local's annual picnic.

    "I knew I was going to drink beer, so I wouldn't care what people were thinking," he remembers.

    "People gave me looks, joked around a little, asked why I was wearing a skirt," Peterson says.

    Sometimes, he says, people do ask him "if I'm going 'commando' under that kilt."

    Of course, going commando means not wearing any underwear.

    He does.

    Now Peterson owns 15 kilts in various colors and fabrics.

    He goes to Fred Meyer in a kilt. He takes his wife out to restaurants in a kilt. He does yardwork in a kilt. He goes in a kilt to watch his 15-year-old son, Dante, play in the high-school band.

    Perhaps it's because one might think twice about making fun of a big guy like Peterson. But Peterson says that mostly what he gets are stares.

    Dante says, "It's pretty cool that my dad fights for what he thinks he should do. My buddies have no problem with it. "

    Taking on the "fuddy-daddies"

    Soon enough, Peterson began envisioning a time when he could wear kilts to work. Right now, male carriers wear pants, either long or short. Female carriers can wear skirts.

    Any changes in Postal Service uniforms are complicated.

    The union has to approve it. A Postal Service committee has to test the garment, for such things as waterproofing and sun screening. A manufacturer has to be found.

    Peterson barged ahead.

    Last summer, the state convention of the letter carriers' union adopted Peterson's resolution for Male Unbifurcated Garments, or MUGs.

    Then came last week's national convention.

    Peterson spent all $1,800 his family had received from the government's economic-stimulus tax rebate to mail off 1,000 letters to every postal-union branch in the country. He included a photo of himself in a mock-up Postal Service kilt.

    He explained that kilts "don't confine the legs or cramp the male genitals the way that trousers or shorts do."

    He even got support from the Oregon letter-carriers union, which passed the same resolution.

    Says Brooks Bennett, executive board member of the letter-carriers union in Washington state, "In Washington and Oregon, I guess we like to see ourselves as being progressive. Things get a hearing here that might not in other places."

    But at the national convention, reception was frosty from the decision-makers. At one point, Peterson was so nervous that he mistakenly said "UPS" when he meant "USPS," for United States Postal Service. That got him roundly booed.

    The committee in charge of the resolution nixed the kilts, saying there wasn't much demand for them.

    Peterson says it was the older members — "the fuddy-daddies," he calls them — who didn't like the kilts. He says he could see them staring at him as he wore a kilt on the convention floor.

    "All you could see was dirty looks."

    He vows to return with his resolution at the next national convention in 2010.

    Peterson was wearing a kilt as he was promising that.

    He looked quite comfortable.

    Erik Lacitis: 206-464-2237 or elacitis@seattletimes.com
    Article with more pics here: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...iltman30m.html

    Best regards,

    Jake
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    Did anyone manage to find this guys contact info and tell him about the boards. I'm sure he would appreciate all the support he would get from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meinfs View Post
    Thanks Steve, I tried using Tartan Ferret but couldn't come up with a result... (oh well).
    If you type U.S. into Tartan Name (not Surname) you get a list of tartans including the U.S. Postal Service. You could also have typed in 4166 into tartan number. http://www.tartansauthority.com/web/...rchintroc2.asp

    Animo non astutia

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    I just sent an email to the reporter who wrote the article. I told him about us and that we would love to send our support to Mr Peterson. I'll keep you all updated on any possible responses.
    "Two things are infinite- the universe, and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Albert Einstein.

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    If the US Postal Service has its own tartan, I can't see why this would be such an issue. Personally, I think that blue Utilikilt goes great with the uniform shirt.

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    I support this guy! My great uncle was a letter-carrier long ago, but I think he would have approved. So, now we have the acronym, "MUG", to add to our vocabulatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Daw View Post
    I support this guy! My great uncle was a letter-carrier long ago, but I think he would have approved. So, now we have the acronym, "MUG", to add to our vocabulatory.
    MUG is an old one, invented by UK, I think. Its even in our FAQ.

    Here's yet another follow up.

    Lacey letter carrier going full kilt ahead
    By DAN CATCHPOLE
    ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

    SEATTLE -- Dean Peterson is a man on a mission. With a kilt.

    Peterson, 48, a 6-foot-tall, 250-pound mail carrier in Lacey, wants the U.S. Postal Service to add kilts as a uniform option for men.

    * * *snip * * *

    He began wearing kilts a couple years ago when his wife brought one back from a trip to Scotland. Now he wears them everywhere - to a son's football games, the other son's concerts, shopping and gardening.

    "Its the difference between wearing jammies to bed and wearing your work clothes to bed," Peterson said.

    While his prototype is the same color as other uniform items, an official USPS tartan is registered with the International Tartan Index

    * * * snip * * *

    The union's executive committee recommended disapproval, saying there was not enough demand for kilts to be worth the bother of the resolution, and delegates agreed by a large margin.

    It was not a major issue at the convention, union spokesman Drew Von Bergen said.

    "We were there doing a lot of serious things at the convention about the postal service, the economy, the union," he said.

    Union President William Young said he wouldn't wear a kilt.

    "That got my blood going," Peterson said. "Even if there are only 300 carriers that want the option of wearing a kilt, we should have that option, and that's why I'm fighting for this resolution."

    There are plenty of approved uniform items which very few mail carriers wear, including a cardigan sweater, vest and pith helmet, he said.

    For an article of clothing to be approved as a uniform option, the union must first agree, followed by testing by a Postal Service Committee and selection of a manufacturer.

    Earlier this year letter carrier unions in Washington and Oregon passed identical resolutions endorsing kilts.

    Another kilt enthusiast, Paul Lunde led the effort in Oregon.

    "As someone who walks 10 miles a day, when it gets hot, muggy - it gets hot, sweaty, chaffy," Lunde said. "With a kilt, it doesn't get as hot. There's less chaffing."

    Unlike Peterson, Lunde has been allowed to wear a kilt to work on St. Patrick's Day, Halloween and National Tartan Day on April 6.

    He has heard negative comments from only three of his 100 co-workers and none from customers on his route.

    Superiors and union leaders, however, have "already made up their minds. Unfortunately, their mouths are far more open then their minds," Lunde said.

    He thinks kilts look professional and would encourage esprit de corps.

    "Whenever you see someone in a kilt, they're always standing tall," Lunde said.

    Peterson said many convention delegates did express support after his resolution was voted down.

    "I got so pumped up after being at such a low that I'm taking this to the next convention in 2010 in Anaheim, Calif.," he said.
    Full article here: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...stal_kilt.html

    Best regards,

    Jake
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