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View Poll Results: Kilt Pin or Brooch?
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11th August 08, 10:41 AM
#1
kilt pin...brooch...which one do you prefer and why?
I wear a plaid brooch with a plaid, a penannular brooch with a brat, and only occasionally will I wear a kilt pin; at best they cause unnecessary wear to my apron; at worst, they snag on something and tear a hole.
...the difference in a kilt pin and a brooch?
At least to my understanding, it's not either/or; a brooch and a kilt pin are two entirely different things.
A brooch is often a big (2 1/2-3") round pin, often with a big stone or emblem in the middle, used to secure a plaid to your shoulder. For the Irish, it's traditionally a penannular "Tara" type brooch, often larger than a Scottish plaid brooch. A kilt pin is a little decorative thing secured to your outer kilt apron, which actually serves no discernable useful purpose.
Last edited by PiobBear; 11th August 08 at 10:49 AM.
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11th August 08, 11:22 AM
#2
 Originally Posted by PiobBear
A kilt pin is a little decorative thing secured to your outer kilt apron, which actually serves no discernable useful purpose.
I've always thought one of the more primary reasons of wearing a kilt pin was to weigh down the apron a little bit so it didn't fly up with a gust of wind. Is this not correct?
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11th August 08, 11:52 AM
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 Originally Posted by Ayin McFye
I've always thought one of the more primary reasons of wearing a kilt pin was to weigh down the apron a little bit so it didn't fly up with a gust of wind. Is this not correct?
That is my understanding. I have several pins I wear on my kilt apron (when I have on a "traditional" style kilt) and several brooches for when I wear a plaid.
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11th August 08, 12:24 PM
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I've always thought one of the more primary reasons of wearing a kilt pin was to weigh down the apron a little bit so it didn't fly up with a gust of wind. Is this not correct?
The story goes that Victoria, having witnessed such an event, placed a pin on a kilted soldier's apron to preserve his modesty, thereby starting the tradition.
Think about it;
{A} It's a traditional heavyweight military kilt, not some flimsy rag off of EBay,
{B} It has an inner apron. In order for that to have happened, the wind would have to have been blowing in opposite directions at once (blowing the outer apron to the left, and simultaneously the inner apron to the right); an unlikely occurrence which in all my years as a sailor I've never witnessed.
{C} Where was his sporran as all of this was going on?
It's been my experience that if it's windy enough to lift my apron, a 1 oz. kilt pin isn't going to do much to anchor it down anyway (not half as well as a 9 oz. flask of Islay single malt in my sporran). In my opinion it's just a bauble; another bit for the Highland shop to sell to you at an outrageous mark-up.
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11th August 08, 12:55 PM
#5
Well I read this as brooch as in an ornamental pin (generic) and not necessarily as a Plaid Brooch. I prefer brooches in that definition to the usual sword shaped kilt pins. In my mind the XMarks kilt pin is more of a brooch along with the malt glass kilt pin from kiltgoodies.com.
I would never use a plaid brooch as a kilt pin. My aprons would scream when a pin that large went through.
Dee
Ferret ad astra virtus
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11th August 08, 12:57 PM
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My daily wear pin on my tank is a communicator badge from Star Trek TNG. It works fine on a 16 oz wool kilt, but it pulls my SWK out of shape, so I use a small crossed-snowshoes pin on that. Even so, if a blast of wind is strong enough to blow up a heavy wool kilt, a pin isn't going to help, since I never pin through both aprons.
An uair a théid an gobhainn air bhathal 'se is feàrr a bhi réidh ris.
(When the smith gets wildly excited, 'tis best to agree with him.)
Kiltio Ergo Sum.
I Kilt, therefore I am. -McClef
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11th August 08, 01:00 PM
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 Originally Posted by piobbear
the story goes that victoria, having witnessed such an event, placed a pin on a kilted soldier's apron to preserve his modesty, thereby starting the tradition.
Think about it;
{a} it's a traditional heavyweight military kilt, not some flimsy rag off of ebay,
{b} it has an inner apron. in order for that to have happened, the wind would have to have been blowing in opposite directions at once (blowing the outer apron to the left, and simultaneously the inner apron to the right); an unlikely occurrence which in all my years as a sailor i've never witnessed.
{c} where was his sporran as all of this was going on?
It's been my experience that if it's windy enough to lift my apron, a 1 oz. Kilt pin isn't going to do much to anchor it down anyway (not half as well as a 9 oz. Flask of islay single malt in my sporran). In my opinion it's just a bauble; another bit for the highland shop to sell to you at an outrageous mark-up.
bravo !
Robert Amyot-MacKinnon
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11th August 08, 01:11 PM
#8
I view the Kilt Pin as just a way for a gentleman to show a little bling.
A chance to wear some jewelry.
Therefore I choose whatever catches my eye or has special meaning to me.
I currently have a
A hand carved silver Sun by Kwakwakua First Nations .
A silver Kokopelli
A Phil Corliss hand-tied fishing fly
A Kevin Keeney Kiltmakers pin
An X Marks Clan Crest Badge
Steve Ashton
www.freedomkilts.com
Skype (webcam enabled) thewizardofbc
I wear the kilt because: Swish + Swagger = Swoon.
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11th August 08, 01:20 PM
#9
Options for wearing a brooch
How would one wear a brooch if you weren't wearing a plaid? Would it look out of place on it's own? Where/what would you pin it to?
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12th August 08, 04:39 AM
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 Originally Posted by The Wizard of BC
I view the Kilt Pin as just a way for a gentleman to show a little bling.
A chance to wear some jewelry.
Therefore I choose whatever catches my eye or has special meaning to me.
I have pins and The XMark badge. Oh and a Rampart lion.

Heavy Man.
MrBill
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