Family Name and Clan

[Arlen]

McShane, mcdonald, macgregor, campbell etc. are not gaelic spellings of these names they are english spellings.

MACGHRIOGAIR - Gaelic.
MACGREGOR - English.

And yet, if you are speaking in English you anglocise things.
When I am speaking/writing in the Gaidhlig I use the Gaidhlig spellings and pronunciations of my name and anyone else I am referring to.
When I am speaking/writing in English I use the English spellings and pronunciations.

I also deeply appreciate that places like Canada and America have kept up Scottish traditions (Such as step dancing {not to be confused with Highland Dancing or Scottish country dancing}) which we lost over time and have recently been able to bring it back over to Scotland.

Here's the thing. To be part of a clan back in the day meant living on the land of and swearing fealty to a certain clan and chief. You didn't even need to share a name.
That is no longer, but there is nothing wrong with people celebrating and loving a shared heritage. Especially when they are carefully preserving things that we here in Scotland seem to carelessly lose and then regret so much afterwards.

So long as you are proud of who you are as an individual and are not simply living in the past I see no issue at all with showing pride for and interest in what made you.

[sharpdressedscot]

Quite true, Arlen.


Clan systems are no more, as Panache stated earlier. We now have Clan Societies. I tend to look at them in a positive way, not as some rabble that just congregates and has fun (sounds more like this place actually), but more as a group of people that want to share their interests and lineage with someone else.

[actualrealproperscot]

I also deeply appreciate that places like Canada and America have kept up Scottish traditions (Such as step dancing {not to be confused with Highland Dancing or Scottish country dancing}) which we lost over time and have recently been able to bring it back over to Scotland.

They can keep those traditions if you ask me.

[Bugbear]

Eek! My de'ja' vu hurts...

Does it count if hearing the pipes makes you cry?

[Panache]

They can keep those traditions if you ask me.

actualrealproperscot,

Being that you have signed up on a Kilt Forum I imagine there must be at least some Scottish Traditions that you care for, such as kilts maybe? Or do you enjoy the comfort and good looks of contemporary kilts.

Perhaps you should take a moment to introduce yourself in our Newbie Forum so we better know who we are conversing with and what your interests in X Marks the Scot.com are?

Cheers

Jamie

[Jock Scot]

As one actual real proper Scot to another I cannot quite understand what you are trying to say.Can you enlighten me?

I absolutely agree with you that the clan system has not really existed since 1746.

I think you are saying that you don't approve of the modern day clan society, or, societies.

I think you are saying that you are fed up with the Victorian/biscuit tin history of Scotland perpetuated by the Scottish tourist board and their "rose tinted glasses". I am!

I think you are saying that people from the rest of the world should not enjoy,in whatever form,their Scotish roots.

I think you are saying that you dislike the commercialism of the tartan trade and allied industries.

I think,nay,actually you have said it, that you do not like people to conserve certain dances. Why?

Now, I quite accept that you are entitled to the, seemingly, strongly held views that you have on Scottish history,Scottish culture,People with Scottish roots,Scotland in general,and no doubt other views too that I have not picked up on, or, you have not even expressed an opinion on.What I don't understand is what you are really trying to say. If I have misunderstood what you have said then let me apologize forthwith,but I am genuinely interested in your not often voiced slant on Scotland.

So what are you really trying to say?

[Phil]

As another actual real proper Scot I go along with some of what you say but am puzzled by other things that seem to tell me that you feel only we Scots can own and appreciate our culture. I agree with this up to a point in that there is a much wider aspect of Scottishness than merely clans, kilts, shortbread - all that stuff, but I disagree with trying to alienate those who want to be a part of it, even if only in a limited way. There are some here who have taken the plunge and come to Scotland to live it and others who would wish to but can't for the usual economic reasons.
You will never get your point of view across by simply being negative and I hope you will contribute here as I am sure you have a lot to offer.

[Mike1]

Perhaps you should take a moment to introduce yourself in our Newbie Forum so we better know who we are conversing with and what your interests in X Marks the Scot.com are?

Sorry, Panache, but Seanboy won't be sticking around long enough for proper introductions.

Sean, you're nothing if not persistent. Did you really think I wouldn't twig who you are?

Keep registering, if you like. I can keep binning you, for as long as it takes.

[Arlen]

Sorry, Panache, but Seanboy won't be sticking around long enough for proper introductions.

Sean, you're nothing if not persistent. Did you really think I wouldn't twig who you are?

Keep registering, if you like. I can keep binning you, for as long as it takes.

I KNEW IT!

I was just saying to one of the other members this afternoon how much he reminded me of 'That Sean bloke.'

I should be a detective even if I'm not half as good as you, Mike.

[Panache]

Ladies and Gentleman, behold your X Marks the Scot.com staff at work.

Troll suspected, identified, and removed.

All part of the service!

Cheers

Jamie