Argyll? Vest? Waistcoat? what's in a name

**Cassidy** · 13th August 08, 07:09 PM

The long tartan fabric draped over the shoulder is called a "fly plaid," or just "a plaid."

It's made to resemble the wearing of a great kilt, which is pretty much an absurdly long piece of wool that you turn into a kilt with well placed folds.

**meinfs** · 15th August 08, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by Cassidy

The long tartan fabric draped over the shoulder is called a "fly plaid," or just "a plaid."

It's made to resemble the wearing of a great kilt, which is pretty much an absurdly long piece of wool that you turn into a kilt with well placed folds.

How is the fly plaid attached to the kilt? Is it a separate piece?

**davedove** · 15th August 08, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by meinfs

How is the fly plaid attached to the kilt? Is it a separate piece?

It is not attached to the kilt. It is a separate piece of cloth, pinned at the shoulder and hanging down the back.

Example:

**meinfs** · 15th August 08, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by davedove

It is not attached to the kilt. It is a separate piece of cloth, pinned at the shoulder and hanging down the back.

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Nice. Sharp looking!

Thanks. Do you ever have trouble with it as for as the plaid moving left and right when you move about? Do people tuck part of it into the kilt in the back? Can you do that?

**davedove** · 15th August 08, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by meinfs

Nice. Sharp looking!

Thanks. Do you ever have trouble with it as for as the plaid moving left and right when you move about? Do people tuck part of it into the kilt in the back? Can you do that?

I've never had a problem with that, but then when I'm wearing the fly plaid, it's for formal wear and I'm not moving that energetically.

Some issues:

The weight of the plaid does tend to pull the jacket to the left. If you look at the picture, my right sleeve seems to be a lot shorter than the left one.

Be careful sitting down or you'll sit on the plaid, causing it to pull on the shoulder and straining where it's pinned.

**Nick** · 15th August 08, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by meinfs

Nice. Sharp looking!

Thanks. Do you ever have trouble with it as for as the plaid moving left and right when you move about?

I've also never had that problem. If the plaid is tucked under an epaulette it holds it even more securley in place, right at the top of the shoulder so there's no real chance of slippage.