If sydnie7 can do it, so can I: the rev K

**Aldisimo** · 4th September 08, 08:49 PM

... a killer-diller waistband like Steve Ashton does on the Freedom kilts ...

From the web site, I can't tell what's special about the waistband. Can you give a little description?

... you must plan ahead of time where the center of the kilt will be ...

I'm just going to start in the middle of seven yards of fabric. I hope there will be enough for a vest on the ends, but if it's just waste, well, achieving perfection often has its cost!

**sydnie7** · 4th September 08, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Aldisimo

I'm just going to start in the middle of seven yards of fabric. I hope there will be enough for a vest on the ends, but if it's just waste, well, achieving perfection often has its cost!

No reason to start in the middle. You can "chalk" the RK pleats just as described for the XKilt, see the photo in this thread. Mark your pleats until you run out of the first fabric piece, back up to a good seam point -- such as the deep inner fold of a knife pleat -- leave a seam allowance, and start up marking on the second piece. Remember to start the second piece with a matching seam allowance and the other half of the knife pleat fold. You'll end up with all your excess fabric in one piece at the far end, past the edge of the underapron.

Have fun!

**Aldisimo** · 4th September 08, 09:06 PM

What second piece? I'm not going to buy any more fabric—I've already got seven yards!

**Alan H** · 4th September 08, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Aldisimo

What second piece? I'm not going to buy any more fabric—I've already got seven yards!

Sounds like you have one long piece of single-width fabric...or a long piece of 24-30 inch wide stuff. sydnie7 is assuming you bought 3-4 yards of double-width (60 inches) and are cutting it in half length-wise, and joing the pieces to make one long piece. That's what folks usually do with tartan.

It's what I did with my Reverse Kinguisse kilt that I Just made. I bought 3 yards of 60-inch wide black bull denim, then cut out 2, 24 inch wide pieces from the edges, and joined them. I made it so that the seam where the pieces are joined together lies smack-dab in the middle of the inner box pleat that kinguisse kilts all have.

**Alan H** · 9th September 08, 12:30 PM

OK, I just have a couple of lousy cell phone pics, but they'll have to do. The Verdict? I won't use bull denim for another kilt again, if I want the pleats to lie "just so". The stuff is just too stiff. For a more "casual-messy" kilt like a utilikilt-type thing, it'd be fine. My tastes have slowly veered to the more traditional, I must say. Then again, this has only been washed twice, and it might ease up in time. We'll see. Bull denim would make a nice , beefy X-Kilt.

**Alan H** · 9th September 08, 12:33 PM

I gotta say, if I make another contemporary kilt out of stuff that's anything like "beefy", I'm making one with really wide pleats. This kilt has pleats with 1.25 inch reveals, there are about 20 pleats. Honestly, with this stuff the kilt would probably look better with more like 12 pleats. And, again.... my gut feeling is that bull denim and X-Kilts are a perfect match.

**sydnie7** · 9th September 08, 12:49 PM

That's a great look, confirms that a black twill kilt for Bob is on the list. I will probably stick with RK pleating for solid casuals now, they just look more kilt-like to me than the box (but there is at least one boxed tartan in my future).

**Alan H** · 9th September 08, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by sydnie7

That's a great look, confirms that a black twill kilt for Bob is on the list. I will probably stick with RK pleating for solid casuals now, they just look more kilt-like to me than the box (but there is at least one boxed tartan in my future).

sydnie7, I'll bring this one to Ventura and you can look it over. Bull denim (it's a twill weave) would do just fine, I think, as material for one of your "X-Kilt-Modified-RK" kilts for Bob.

IN FACT.....if you wanted to go to the hassle of writing an X-Kilt addendum "How to Adapt the X-Kilt to a Wide-Pleat Reverse Kinguisse" I bet you'd have a mess 'o takers.

**sydnie7** · 9th September 08, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Alan H

sydnie7, I'll bring this one to Ventura and you can look it over. Bull denim (it's a twill weave) would do just fine, I think, as material for one of your "X-Kilt-Modified-RK" kilts for Bob.

IN FACT.....if you wanted to go to the hassle of writing an X-Kilt addendum "How to Adapt the X-Kilt to a Wide-Pleat Reverse Kinguisse" I bet you'd have a mess 'o takers.

Now you've gone and done it!

Before you know it, there'll be a thread asking "Whatever happened to the long-awaited RK Addendum?!?!" and I'll be trudging around with another layer of guilt in my to-do basket (which is already overflowing, thank-you-very-much).

j/k. . . kinda.

I'll keep the idea in mind, but it won't happen until I start making another one, taking notes and lots of pics along the way. And if anybody starts that "whatever happened to..." thread, I'll password-protect them out of the eventual file!

**Alan H** · 9th September 08, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by sydnie7

Now you've gone and done it!

Before you know it, there'll be a thread asking "Whatever happened to the long-awaited RK Addendum?!?!" and I'll be trudging around with another layer of guilt in my to-do basket (which is already overflowing, thank-you-very-much).

j/k. . . kinda.

I'll keep the idea in mind, but it won't happen until I start making another one, taking notes and lots of pics along the way. And if anybody starts that "whatever happened to..." thread, I'll password-protect them out of the eventual file!

Just sent you a PM....maybe you and meinfs could make a team-effort out of it? That might ease up on the workload for one person. I'll volunteer to vett/edit it, and maybe I can suck up to the F-H.C.A.G enough...by supplying her with alcohol.... to get her to edit it, too.