Pleating and tartan comparisons

billmcc · 19th September 08, 07:03 AM

Good examples of color variations and pleating options. Thank you for sharing your pictures, Barb.

Have you done a kilt in the Douglas Grey tartan?

**Barb T** · 19th September 08, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by billmcc

Have you done a kilt in the Douglas Grey tartan?

I made one several years ago for piper Andrew Douglas (if you're a piper, you know who he is - played for SFU and is now pipe major of Oran Mor). I never did take a picture of it. But will see him this weekend at the NH Highland Games. If he has it with him, I'll grab a pic - would be a nice addition to the set of photos.

billmcc · 19th September 08, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Barb T.

...would be a nice addition to the set of photos.

That is what I was thinking.

**puffer** · 20th September 08, 05:09 PM

Barb, do you have any pics showing "box" pleats ??

Puffer

**Barb T** · 24th October 08, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by puffer

Barb, do you have any pics showing "box" pleats ??

Puffer

What did you have in mind?

**puffer** · 24th October 08, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by Barb T.

What did you have in mind?

Barb, there appears to be at least 2 types of "box pleats" being offered.
1. the "MILITARY"
2. "civilian"

The "civilian" style(s) seem to be wider than the military.
The "military" (at least the one I have) are 8 yard & 18 oz +, where as many of the "civilian" are 4 yard. I am having dificulty in locating examples of "civilian style" in 8 yards. I would like to compare. ( note - besides my "Seaforth Regimental" I have seen some pictures of Kathey Lare's work.

Could you show & discuss the diferences ???

Thank you
Puffer

**Barb T** · 24th October 08, 10:16 AM

Matt Newsome has a nice section on his web site on box pleat kilts at

http://kilts.albanach.org/

The reason that you don't see 8 yards of tartan in a kilt like this is, as you'll see from Matt's website, because they are modeled after a very old style of traditional stitched-pleat kilt. A traditional box pleated kilt has a small number of wide pleats (7-9 or so, depending on the tartan). 8 yards of tartan in a knife-pleated kilt is actually a rather modern invention (more or less since end of the 1800s).

Someone else should talk about military box pleat kilts. I've heard several different stories about how they originally developed. Maybe Steve Ashton could describe the origin that he told me at Kilt Kamp a couple years ago.