Kilt Kamp 2009

**ChattanCat** · 11th October 08, 04:00 PM

Ah, yes, quite a delema. The geographical center is in Lebanon. The mean center of the population is in Phelps County, MO. They have 59 people per square mile. Hmm, what could be in the middle of those two important places??? Why it's Kansas City!!!! Woot!

**The Wizard of BC** · 11th October 08, 10:04 PM

All kidding aside guys and gals here is what must happen if you really want a Kilt Kamp to happen in 2009.

Someone must be willing to host the Kilt Kamp. This includes, but is not limited to;

Is willing to find, or has access to, a Hall, or other suitable venue. Classes such as Kilt Kamp have been held in Kilt Shops, Empty Stores, Community Centers, YMCA's, Summer Camp Cabins, Church Halls and other such locations.

Will be willing and able to spend the time and energy to coordinate the Hall, the instructors, & the schedules of the attendees.,

Will be willing to locate reserve, and post here, the information on suitable lodgings for the instructors and attendees.

Dittio for resturaunts in the local area.

Willing to find, borrow or rent tables, chairs and lighting suitable to the needs of the Kamp.

Willing to take on the collecting of the attendees fees and paying such necessaries such as Hall Rental, Advertising, etc.

If you want Barb to teach at a Kilt Kamp it is customery to pay her travel expenses, food and lodging for the 5 day Kamp.

If you want me to teach at a Kamp, I will ask for travel and lodging expenses for 3 days.

If you want to have other instructors at the Kamp you will need to contact them and arrange for their needs and requirements.

OK, now that I have thrown a bucket of cold reality on the idea, who is willing to take the 2009 Kilt Kamp and run with it?

The first Kilt Kamp was sponsored by Freedom Kilts. I used my shop for Barb's classroom but basically had to shut down my business for 5 days.
I then organized a Kilt Night, & hired a band.
Now I was lucky because I had the shop already, the Kilt Night location is my local pub and was just across the street and I had a 1 bedroom apartment for Barb and her husband to use while they were here.

The Second Kilt Kamp was held at The Scottish Tartans Museum. Matt was able to arrange for us to take over an empty store right next door to the museum. He was able to borrow a house from a friend for Barb, Bobbie and I to use. But in the end I would guess that he was out of pocket for at least three hundred dollars for all the drinks he provided, the pizzas that were delivered, and all the extras he provided.

I don't want to sound harsh but that is the reality of this sort of thing.

Now, any one want to raise their hand?

**kevinkinney** · 12th October 08, 06:46 PM

Hmm,

The whitewater is pretty sweet in NC. Matt?
Coastal mountaineeing would be cool too. Go for it Steve.

Then again, the Russian River is a hoot. Jamie?

Kevin- who might be tempted to teach a jacket class if timed properly.

**macwilkin** · 14th October 08, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by ChattanCat

Ah, yes, quite a delema. The geographical center is in Lebanon. The mean center of the population is in Phelps County, MO. They have 59 people per square mile. Hmm, what could be in the middle of those two important places??? Why it's Kansas City!!!! Woot!

Actually, St. Louis or Springfield are much closer to Phelps County than Kansas City. Rolla/Phelps County is halfway between SGF and STL on Interstate 44.

Todd

**JerseyLawyer** · 14th October 08, 11:22 AM

Could you give us an idea of what the space and equipment requirements are? A big room with cafeteria tables? Something else?

**Dixiecat** · 14th October 08, 11:34 AM

Anyone interested in coming to Halifax, NS?

**The Wizard of BC** · 14th October 08, 03:52 PM

Here are some of the space and ancillary requirements we have found work well in the past.

A hall or large room approx. 15' X 20' or larger. (About the size of a 2 or 3 car garage.

One table for each participant plus two extras for the instructor and samples. The tables need to be able to hold the fabric for one kilt at a minimum.

Enough chairs to seat everyone including guests, visitors, & family that may drop in from time to time.

Electrical outlets and extension cords for the lamps and task lighting for each participant.

Good ceiling lights or windows to keep the room well lighted.

Trash cans as necessary.

Then there are to ancillary things that make to experience enjoyable such as access to a restaurant, coffee shop, or other lunch place. The participants should be able to find lunch without driving an hour each way.

Other food outlets nearby for the participants to have their evening meals.

Some sort of tourist attractions nearby for family and friends to pass the day.

A pub, bar or other gathering place where a dram my be found. A good place for a Kilt Night is a big plus.

Then any other things which would make the experience enjoyable. If a Highland Games, festival, or fair were going on at the same time it would be nice.

Each venue we have found in the past has be different and unique. Each offered a different experience for the participants.

Are you raising your hand?

**Wompet** · 14th October 08, 04:34 PM

Huh ...
Here are some of the space and ancillary requirements we have found work well in the past.

A hall or large room approx. 15' X 20' or larger. (About the size of a 2 or 3 car garage. two car garage - check

One table for each participant plus two extras for the instructor and samples. The tables need to be able to hold the fabric for one kilt at a minimum.

Enough chairs to seat everyone including guests, visitors, & family that may drop in from time to time.

Electrical outlets and extension cords for the lamps and task lighting for each participant. outlets on each wall - check

Good ceiling lights or windows to keep the room well lighted. overhead lights and skylights, windows on exterior walls - check

Trash cans as necessary. check

Then there are to ancillary things that make to experience enjoyable such as access to a restaurant, coffee shop, or other lunch place. The participants should be able to find lunch without driving an hour each way. a relaxing walk or five minute drive - check

Other food outlets nearby for the participants to have their evening meals. check

Some sort of tourist attractions nearby for family and friends to pass the day. That's a toughy - oh wait, Niagara Falls ... Erie Canal ... Fallsview Casino - check

A pub, bar or other gathering place where a dram my be found. A good place for a Kilt Night is a big plus. pubs in U.S. and Canada - check

Then any other things which would make the experience enjoyable. If a Highland Games, festival, or fair were going on at the same time it would be nice. plenty of games, festivals, and fairs, throughout the summer; easy driving distance for Barb, Robert, and Pete; see the world famous Rubber Chicken Sporran - check

Each venue we have found in the past has be different and unique. Each offered a different experience for the participants.

Are you raising your hand?

Wait, what am I thinking?

I barely have time to organize my own life, much less a workshop!
Where did the old "Delete Post" button go!?

**Wompet** · 14th October 08, 04:39 PM

Seriously, though - if I can come up with 11 of Steve's 13 requirements in fifteen minutes, someone more organized could do a much better job.

Of course, having it here means I wouldn't have to pay for travel expenses, or room & board ... Stop it! That's the kind of thinking that causes me trouble more often than not ...

**sathor** · 14th October 08, 05:55 PM

The mall my mom has a resteraunt in has a few conference rooms, one is quite large, (It used to be a clothing store) It is off the highway, has an attached hotel w/ pool, 2 other hotels across the street, major airport abut 20 min away, a number of nearby historical areas, parks that can be photogenic, Just north of the I75-I70 intersection.