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15th October 08, 05:10 PM
#11
Hm, I think I'll just go with the Saltire. I dont' want to anger somebody, even if I don't mean to.
Thanks for the help guys.
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15th October 08, 06:29 PM
#12
 Originally Posted by sharpdressedscot
Hm, I think I'll just go with the Saltire. I dont' want to anger somebody, even if I don't mean to.
Thanks for the help guys.
Probably a wise choice. I would stick with the Saltire as well. This whole thread has been educational for me. The reference to the American Presidential flag is a good metaphor on why it is inappropriate to fly the rampant lion flag. I will be allot more conscious of not displaying that symbol from now on.
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15th October 08, 10:33 PM
#13
So excuse my Ignorance what is the purpose of the Rampart lion Flag?
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16th October 08, 04:43 AM
#14
Wasn't the rampant lion flag a battle flag? This would make it similar to the flag that most accept as the flag of the confederacy, but was actually the battle flag for the Army of Northern Virginia
"A day spent in the fields and woods, or on the water should not count as a day off our allotted number upon this earth."
Jerry, Kilted Old Fart.
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16th October 08, 05:23 AM
#15
If I understand correctly, the Rampant Lion Flag is the flag of the Royal House of Scotland. That's why it's inappropriate for anyone who is not of the Scottish Royal Family to fly it.
That being said, it is a nice flag, though I prefer the Saltire myself.
Casey
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16th October 08, 05:39 AM
#16
 Originally Posted by Jerry
Wasn't the rampant lion flag a battle flag? This would make it similar to the flag that most accept as the flag of the confederacy, but was actually the battle flag for the Army of Northern Virginia
It is the personal flag of the Sovereign of Scotland, not a battle flag.
T.
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16th October 08, 08:55 AM
#17
 Originally Posted by Nervous Jock
Really??
Verily. But, keep calm and carry on.
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16th October 08, 10:06 AM
#18
In these United States, a minor phenomenon according to author Celeste Ray in her book Highland Heritage, has established itself. She calls it highlandism. It’s similar to the tartanization of Scotland during the era of Sir Walter Scott.
She has researched the often overzealous love of tartan & clans by Americans of Scottish descent and especially those in the American South.
As a result of highlandism, many now cherished (and incorrect) beliefs have become thoroughly entrenched. These would include the Mc v. Mac argument, authority to wear specific tartans, kirkings of tartan, and in this case the right to don an image of the Rampant Lion.
Almost no matter where I go decked out in Highland finery, there’s some eedjit who’s gonna tell me what/how I’m wearing something, piping a tune, ad nauseum is somehow incorrect. And almost always he knows just enough to be dangerous. Too often he’s an insufferable boor.
This is how Jack Daw arrived at his conclusion – I must agree as well. Wearing will make the owner an eejit magnet. Even wearing the saltire may draw the wrath of some jughead.
Slainte yall,
steve
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16th October 08, 10:51 AM
#19
 Originally Posted by JS Sanders
In these United States, a minor phenomenon according to author Celeste Ray in her book Highland Heritage, has established itself. She calls it highlandism. It’s similar to the tartanization of Scotland during the era of Sir Walter Scott.
She has researched the often overzealous love of tartan & clans by Americans of Scottish descent and especially those in the American South.
As a result of highlandism, many now cherished (and incorrect) beliefs have become thoroughly entrenched. These would include the Mc v. Mac argument, authority to wear specific tartans, kirkings of tartan, and in this case the right to don an image of the Rampant Lion.
Almost no matter where I go decked out in Highland finery, there’s some eedjit who’s gonna tell me what/how I’m wearing something, piping a tune, ad nauseum is somehow incorrect. And almost always he knows just enough to be dangerous. Too often he’s an insufferable boor.
This is how Jack Daw arrived at his conclusion – I must agree as well. Wearing will make the owner an eejit magnet. Even wearing the saltire may draw the wrath of some jughead.
Slainte yall,
steve
Well said, Steve. Ms. Ray's little book is well worth the read. After I read it the first time, the games were never the same for me again.
In general, Ms. Ray is very complimentary towards the Scottish-American community, even whilst pointing out the myths that abound in it.
T.
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16th October 08, 11:09 AM
#20
I think your all taking it a bit seriously, you can buy both of them as patches at almost every gift shop in Scotland and for that matter most in London, not something that you would find with the presidential.
In addition that is no longer the royal standard, its the old standard of scotland the current is standard is the royal which incorporates the scots/Irish/English
I think you will find in general Americans have a lot more reverence for flags than we do over here.
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