79th New York Highlanders Reg.

[macneighill]

Just be careful of who you buy from. There are those that try to make a buck, and sell crappy stuff. Then, there are the better vendors that, make period correct uniforms and accessories. Just do the research first, then have fun with building your "kit" (period impression).

Sorry, I guess I should've been a little more detailed with this. I wasn't referring to a kilt. I was referring to your "other" items (i.e. sack coat, shell jacket, frock coat, belt, shirt, socks, canteen, haversack, etc.) .

[BoldHighlander]

There used to be a member here who reproduced 79th uniform kit, but she hasn't signed on in a while. She may be back after seeing your post.

She's on my myspace buddy list....I'll give her a gentle prod this way

[BoldHighlander]

She's on my myspace buddy list....I'll give her a gentle prod this way

Okay, done
Hopefully she'll be on soon

[Kilted Rogue]

The Cameron of Erracht kilt sold at WPG is not a replica of the 79th NY Cameron kilt. It is a more modern military kilt. A lot of 79th reenactors wear the modern kilts, but this is technically incorrect.

The kilts worn by the 79th NY Cameron Highlanders were 6 yards long, box pleated, and machine stitched throughout. The pleating was neither to stripe nor to sett -- it appears that the tailors attempted to pleat to the sett somewhat but it's not correct. The aprons are fringed, but the fringe doesn't line up to the sett of the tartan. There is a single strap & buckle on the outside of the right hip and a single strap and buckle on the inside of the left hip (how I make my kilts). All of these things are different from modern Cameron military kilts.

Remember, these kilts were made from Scottish cloth, but they were made by NY dress makers, not Scottish kilt makers, who were doing their best job at recreating a Scottish kilt with no training in doing such.

thank you Mr Newsome,
I was hoping you would weigh in on my query. Do you know if the 79th kilts would have been worn Higher up ( like the WPG Kilts) or where we wear our trad. kilts today.

Also is it posible to get a Closer reproduction of the 79th Cameron kilt than what WPG sells.

~B

[79thReproductions]

Okay, done
Hopefully she'll be on soon

I got the message, thank you!

Ill get to it right off....

There are two uniforms that you can shoot for with the parade (Dress) uniform being the hardest and most expensive to put together. The fatigue uniform is less expensive and still very impressive.

Here is a gear list for a proper 79th parade uniform from head to toes:

79th NY Glengarry:
My brother on the left is wearing one with correct pre-war/early-war insignia


79th NY Militia jacket:
http://a606.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...197f1a2ca5.jpg

Marine Corp Shoulder scales with Fringe plates:
The rank specific fringe was attached to the plates and inserted into the scales. Senior NCOs wore a gold fringe while the rest of the enlisted wore Red.
http://i38.tinypic.com/20zthk9.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/29114rd.jpg

Issue Grey wool flannel shirt:
http://www.wwandcompany.com/images/issueshirt1.jpg

m1839 waist belt: (Also known as the "Baby US" belt)

Shield pattern Cap Pouch:
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/ca...ch/pw24172.jpg
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/ca...w241back72.jpg

m1857 .69 Cal. Cartridge Box:
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/li...1857_small.jpg
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/li...back_small.jpg

m1851 Sewn .69 Cal. Springfield scabbard:
http://www.jarnaginco.com/artwork/ca...20scabbard.JPG

The kilt is as Mr. Newsome described. Unfortunately, I do not have any pictures of one yet as I have not ordered one from Mr. Newsome yet.
If you are in the market for one, Go only to that man. Anything else would be a far cry from a 79th kilt.

79th NY Sporran:
http://i33.tinypic.com/2eybdqf.jpg

Red/White Diced Full hose
http://i34.tinypic.com/2rz9f1g.jpg

Colonial low cut buckle shoes
http://i35.tinypic.com/2vcytn4.jpg

1816, 1842, Springfield Rifle/Smooth bore

Heres an original 1816 Flintlock conversion. The same model as discribed in the unit history.

http://www.andersonmilitaria.com/Web_Pages/firearms/17F.htm"]http://www.andersonmilitaria.com/Web_Pages/firearms/17F.htm

There are some extras that are needed for rank specific impressions.

NCOS:
Red NCO Sash

1850 NCO Militia sword without fraternal markings

Rank specific Light blue infantry Chevrons made from 3/8" wool tape.

I can get to a list of how much that all costs, and where to get every single item.

Here is a picture of one of my 79th uniforms compared to a 79th Soldier of the same rank. Sorry for the low quality. Its what I get for using a cell phone

Differences are:
Gair is wearing the m1839 waist belt, not the m1857 as shown with this uniform
My uniform is without shoulder scales
This uniform has trews, not the kilt as Sgt Gair is wearing



Ill keep close for this thread!
Rachel

[Derek Conley]

Very impressive!

[M. A. C. Newsome]

To get a close recreation of a 79th kilt, you'd have to either go to a kilt maker that knows what they were like, or describe exactly what you want to the kilt maker. You are not going to find one generally available in a tartan shop, if that is what you mean.

I have made one so far that has been a pretty close representation of a 79th kilt, if not an exact replica. (I took pictures, I'll have to find them).

I used Lochcarron's 16 oz cloth, modern colors. (I could have had cloth special woven that would have mimiced more closely the original colors and sett size, but my client in this case did not want to incurr that additional expense, and the cloth Lochcarron offered was sufficiently close). I hand stitched the kilt, rather than machine stitched it. The originals, as you recall, were machine stitched throughout because they were made not by kilt makers, but New York dress makers. Well, I'm not a New York dress maker, I'm a kilt maker, and no expert in using a sewing machine! So my client was happy for me to hand stitch the kilt.

This kilt had closer to 4 yards than 6 yards. The reson for this was that given the size of my client (he was very thin) and the sett size of the Lochcarron cloth, if I had used a full 6 yards of cloth as in the originals, the pleating would not have looked like the pleating of the original (at least the photo I have seen). So in this case, to get the kilt to "look" the same, I actually had to use less cloth.

I did mimic the pleating style of the original kilt by pleating "sort of" to sett. I also added a fringed apron that was "offsett" from the sett of the tartan, as on the original. The fringed apron I did machine stitch, purposefully, to give a nod towards the machine stitching of the original.

The end result was not an exact museum replica of a 79th kilt, but something that looked very much like the original kilt when worn, working within the limits of what my client could afford and what I could acheive.

[Kilted Rogue]

Rachel
Thank you for that wealth of information. you have given my dad and i more to think about. As for the acutraments I belive he was most of that in hand as he has been a collector and re-enacater for some 35 years, What we are missing is the Uniform. i will keep you in formed of how this goes and will of course post pictures of the event if we are able to pull if off!

Billy

[79thReproductions]

I make the uniforms. Flashes, jacket, sporran, glengarry, 79th odds and ends. If you want anything, let me know. I am doing a run of 79th glengarries right now. That might be something to think about ith:

Be well!

[Drillagent]

If you want anything, let me know. I am doing a run of 79th glengarries right now. That might be something to think about

Please let us know how to order the glengarries. I have been searching for the two line red white and blue check and haven't had any luck until now. Thanks.