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2nd December 08, 02:48 PM
#51
Well, I’ll toss mi dos centavos into the discussion here.
I would try to take a divine perspective here –
1 Samuel 16:7b: “For the Lord sees not as people see; for people look on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”
Especially as someone who has made a conscious decision to dress in a manner that’s outside the current cultural norm, I’m not so concerned about what people wear as why they’re wearing it.
If a woman chooses to wear a man’s kilt because she likes the way it looks & feels – hey, I’m cool with that. Those are 2 of the main reasons I wear a kilt, too. However, if she’s wearing a man’s kilt because she wants to be a man, then that would indicate problems with personal identity. Only those closest to her would know the truth & be in a position to help her; the rest of us should mind our own business. (I know that keeps me plenty occupied.)
Peace & love
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Happiness? I'd settle for being less annoyed!!!
"I used to be disgusted; now I try to be amused." - Declan MacManus
Member of the Clan Donnachaidh Society
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2nd December 08, 03:34 PM
#52
I'm just surprised that this has created such discussion.
No one says a word about most women I know who wear men's jeans.
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2nd December 08, 03:58 PM
#53
Originally Posted by vmac3205
I'm just surprised that this has created such discussion.
No one says a word about most women I know who wear men's jeans.
I used to get rather worked up over this. You can read the last bit of me being "worked up" over it in the X-Kilt instructions, where I ask the womenfolks to make their X-Kilts open on the left side, and call them X-Skirts. Yup, it used to kind of bug me.
That was then. Two years ago.
These days, I've got much more important things to do that worry about what what side of the body the wraparound below-the-waist, pleated garment they are wearing, opens on. But that's just me. Opinions may differ.
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2nd December 08, 03:59 PM
#54
I agree with the above about it seeming less odd if they open on the other side, or have a much different length.
But to the ladies on the list who do so don the kilt, is it much the same when it comes to those wishing to do the kilt-check as when a guy is wearing it? We joke about the powers a kilt contains, does its power in that regard cause them to be lifted on women that any other skirt would not have them do as well?
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2nd December 08, 05:01 PM
#55
Originally Posted by sathor
I agree with the above about it seeming less odd if they open on the other side, or have a much different length.
But to the ladies on the list who do so don the kilt, is it much the same when it comes to those wishing to do the kilt-check as when a guy is wearing it? We joke about the powers a kilt contains, does its power in that regard cause them to be lifted on women that any other skirt would not have them do as well?
Absolutely! (As long as you don't mind getting arrested and finding yourself on the local sex offender registry)...
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2nd December 08, 05:22 PM
#56
Originally Posted by CDNSushi
Absolutely! (As long as you don't mind getting arrested and finding yourself on the local sex offender registry)...
Those are evil things they are. I understand that some people deserve to be on there, hell, some people deserve far worse, but there are people labeled like that for life who don't deserve it. I have even read of cases where a person married a minor (legal age to marry but not yet 18) then got arrested/jailed/ and put on the registry for statutory rape because she wound up pregnant. (I've heard from many a cop that age of consent is a myth, especially if their parents find out) The cards I get in the mail don't list more than the charges and the date. For all I know, something went wrong at a party, the mead flowed too thick, and somebody regretted it the next day. I don't want to hear the whole population of people that say 'well he deserves it for that' because I don't believe it. I don't deny it happens, but I think even a few injustices are important in judging if a sentence is fair. Registering for life is wrong in my opinion for many many people. Some deserve to be in jail their whole life.
Some places put people on the list if they are caught trying to hire a prostitute.
I mean, I can honestly believe that its possible to get stuck on that list because you wore a kilt in a windy day in front of a cop.
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I know it sounds like I am playing Devil's Advocate here. I am. I have a reason though. In Jr. High, I once took a dare to squeeze a girls butt, in exchange for a fruit roll up. Yeah, it was dumb. But if the world was the way it is today, I wouldn't have gotten a mere detention, I may have been charged with all sorts of ugly things, and I may have been subject to being on that list myself for a mistake from my youth. Some have said that such a thing wouldn't have happened, but I have seen it on the news to many times for me to believe that.
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2nd December 08, 05:31 PM
#57
I already expressed my opinion so I hesitate...but that was before this became more about political correctness than kilts...which, when I last looked, we have all categorically defined as a "man's garment."
I am an old guy...a veritable dinosaur in today's culture and I cherish and hang onto a lot of "traditional" ideas. I offer no apologies. If one point of view is valid, and worth being heard (and I wouldn't for a moment deny it) then a countervailing perspective is equally valid.
I couldn't care less about whether this person or that one wears a kilt or trousers--unless they make it an issue. But I do see it as another example of reducing everything to the lowest common denominator. I think western society, in particular, is moving more and more towards androgyny. And maybe not so far in the future what started off with a pair of jeans will become a society where all sexual dimorphism is suppressed--no body hair of any kind, no hips or breasts, all beefcake verboten. No body odor, no basso profundo or soprano...just the same old-same old, grey and and homogenized. And maybe for some that will be paradise but I hope I don't live to see it.
I like women because they are different. It's precisely the "otherness" that beguiles me.
Last edited by DWFII; 2nd December 08 at 05:38 PM.
DWFII--Traditionalist and Auld Crabbit
In the Highlands of Central Oregon
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2nd December 08, 05:35 PM
#58
I don't care if a woman wears a Kilt or Jeans. There is a lot more to think about than the clothes some one wears. Just don't worry if the sun is going to come up tomorrow because if it does not, who cares if any of us are wearing anything?
It is not important.
MrBill
Very Sir Lord MrBill the Essential of Happy Bottomshire
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Every other Saturday 1-4 PM
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2nd December 08, 05:44 PM
#59
If I had my druthers, I'd rather run into a woman wearing a kilt than a man--but that's just me.
I say "go for it!" Wear what you want, especially if it makes you feel good. This is the 21st century after all.
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2nd December 08, 06:10 PM
#60
I consider myself a fairly laid back person, so I have no problem at all with a woman wearing whatever she wants...be it a kilt, kilt skirt, dress, pants, jeans, etc. As long as the person, man or woman, is happy and comfortable in their choice of clothing, I say go for it.
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