Scott kilt

[arrg-isle]

Thanks, Todd; that is news to me, and I stand gratefully corrected!
The next best thing about this site, after having fun, is all the learning one can do!
I'd still like to get a look at this Scott Dress Blue; could somebody please post a pic?

[The Wizard of BC]

Arrg-isle,

I am certainly not the recognized Tartan expert Matt Newsome is but I feel I can point out a small, and common misunderstanding in your post.

You say
"I've always understood that tartans can only be "found" in the colors & patterns specifically approved for them by the authorities working directly for the Lord Lyon."

The Lord Lyon has nothing to do with the registration, enforcement, or design of Tartan. His office deals with the registration of Coats of Arms.

The design of Tartan currently has no "Official" regulatory agency. There is a bill in front of the Scottish Parliament but we do not yet know what direction that bill will go in its final form.

Designing a Sett of a Tartan is open to anyone. (A good example is the "X Marks the Scot" Tartan of this forum, designed by Matt and registered as International Tartan Index #6679) If you wish to register your design "The Scottish Tartans Authority" is the current venue to do so even though it is not "Official" or "Recognized" by Scottish law. (and yes, there are other places who keep lists.)

the SCA currently does not list a Tartan under the name "Dress Blue Scott". Does that mean that it does not exist? No.
It also does not mean that if one exists is is less "Official".

But the "Court of the Lord Lyon" has nothing to do with Tartan.
Here is a quote from the site of the Court of the Lord Lyon's website.

"The Court of the Lord Lyon - the official heraldry office for Scotland.

The Court of the Lord Lyon is the heraldic authority for Scotland and deals with all matters relating to Scottish Heraldry and Coats of Arms and maintains the Scottish Public Registers of Arms and Genealogies.

The Lord Lyon King of Arms is also responsible for State Ceremonial in Scotland."

[macwilkin]

Arrg-isle,

I am certainly not the recognized Tartan expert Matt Newsome is but I feel I can point out a small, and common misunderstanding in your post.

You say
"I've always understood that tartans can only be "found" in the colors & patterns specifically approved for them by the authorities working directly for the Lord Lyon."

The Lord Lyon has nothing to do with the registration, enforcement, or design of Tartan. His office deals with the registration of Coats of Arms.

The design of Tartan currently has no "Official" regulatory agency. There is a bill in front of the Scottish Parliament but we do not yet know what direction that bill will go in its final form.

Designing a Sett of a Tartan is open to anyone. (A good example is the "X Marks the Scot" Tartan of this forum, designed by Matt and registered as International Tartan Index #6679) If you wish to register your design "The Scottish Tartans Authority" is the current venue to do so even though it is not "Official" or "Recognized" by Scottish law. (and yes, there are other places who keep lists.)

the SCA currently does not list a Tartan under the name "Dress Blue Scott". Does that mean that it does not exist? No.
It also does not mean that if one exists is is less "Official".

But the "Court of the Lord Lyon" has nothing to do with Tartan.
Here is a quote from the site of the Court of the Lord Lyon's website.

"The Court of the Lord Lyon - the official heraldry office for Scotland.

The Court of the Lord Lyon is the heraldic authority for Scotland and deals with all matters relating to Scottish Heraldry and Coats of Arms and maintains the Scottish Public Registers of Arms and Genealogies.

The Lord Lyon King of Arms is also responsible for State Ceremonial in Scotland."

Boy, this post sounds very familiar, Steve.

Todd

[macwilkin]

Thanks, Todd; that is news to me, and I stand gratefully corrected!
The next best thing about this site, after having fun, is all the learning one can do!
I'd still like to get a look at this Scott Dress Blue; could somebody please post a pic?

No worries, and here are some sites to peruse:

http://www.lyon-court.com/lordlyon/CCC_FirstPage.jsp

http://www.heraldry-scotland.co.uk/

http://www.scotarmigers.net/

http://www.albanach.org/scotheraldry.html

Cheers,

Todd

[Dixiecat]

http://www.tartantown.com/list1_dress_thumbs.html

There's a thumbnail of a Raspberry and a Turquoise Dress Scott on the first link.

http://www.tartantown.com/tartan_dress_thumbs.html

There's thumbnail of Dress Scott on the second link.

For some bright and rare dress tartans (Dress Scott is on this link as well) check out this link:
http://www.bentneedledesigns.net/Fabric.html

[arrg-isle]

Many thanks Dixiecat for those fab links, especially the one for the Bent Needle site; that one's a keeper!
Today's sure been a day for education!

[kiltmaker]

How would you go about pleating a dress blue scott tartan?

What is so difficult. That is not a difficult pattern to follow. Where are you having the problem?

[The Wizard of BC]

Sorry about the duplication of information in your post. I was writing my post as you were sending yours.

hey, this may be one of those cases of great minds thinking alike.


That is to say your mind is great, I just repeat stuff others post and hope it makes me look good.