Really REALLY heavy: too heavy?

**McMurdo** · 12th December 08, 05:40 AM

22oz is comfortable depending on the climate, I find my Gordon Highlander gets a lot of wear and is perfect in the winter, however it hangs in the closet all summer.

**McFarkus** · 12th December 08, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Nighthawk

On a serious note, I personally can't wear anything heavier than a 16 ounce material. 22 oz sounds like 5 yards of pure hell to me. If you do get something made from that heavy material, please post a review- I'd be very interested to read it/.

It's 8 yards not 5. Perfect for a Chicago winter (thought I've worn it in summer too).

**dowofbuchanan** · 12th December 08, 08:35 AM

on an interesting side note .. i used to walk around in the mornings with my lower half wrapped in an old navy fleece blanket in what i remember to be black watch and since i doubled it over to get the right length it was almost bullet proof i had no pleats but i did have an apron ... so do i get points for inventing the instakilt without knowing it ?

**auld argonian** · 12th December 08, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by dowofbuchanan

on an interesting side note .. i used to walk around in the mornings with my lower half wrapped in an old navy fleece blanket in what i remember to be black watch and since i doubled it over to get the right length it was almost bullet proof i had no pleats but i did have an apron ... so do i get points for inventing the instakilt without knowing it ?

I don't know...back when I was about twelve (early 1960's) my mom brought us those white terry cloth towel things that were covered over with cotton tartan print material and that had elastic and snaps to lock 'em around your waist...bath kilts...that was the name under which they were marketed. I distinctly remember that my brother's was Red Stewart and mine was Black Watch...had to get two distinct colors to ensure that there would be no kiddie fights over which was whose. Actually wish that they still made those things, they were warm and great.

Best

AA

**Nighthawk** · 12th December 08, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by McFarkus

It's 8 yards not 5. Perfect for a Chicago winter (thought I've worn it in summer too).

Oh! My mistake! So is this a Dante-esque comparison of the levels of Hades?

Denver ain't all that warm either, but I have great internal heat.

**Nighthawk** · 12th December 08, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by auld argonian

I don't know...back when I was about twelve (early 1960's) my mom brought us those white terry cloth towel things that were covered over with cotton tartan print material and that had elastic and snaps to lock 'em around your waist...bath kilts...that was the name under which they were marketed. I distinctly remember that my brother's was Red Stewart and mine was Black Watch...had to get two distinct colors to ensure that there would be no kiddie fights over which was whose. Actually wish that they still made those things, they were warm and great.

Best

AA

JC Penny carries them. I saw them the other day when we were out Christmas shopping.

**thescot** · 12th December 08, 12:49 PM

I don't have an ounce of worthwhile knowledge about making kilts, but I do own a 22 oz from WPG, just like McMurdo's. Everything he said about it is ditto-ed here. It is very warm, feels good, and looks great.

But it's really heavy. I can't imagine a kilt in heavier wool than 22 oz. It would almost have to be a 5 yd box pleat to reduce the weight or something like Mac said. My Gordon is heavy enough to turn a chair over when I hang it on the back to air out or dry out. I'm not sure anything heavier would hang well and sway well in an 8 yard kilt.

I love, mind you, but it stays closeted in warmer weather, like McMurdo said.

Keep us posted and remember about photos. It's a rule.

**Kiltman** · 12th December 08, 08:57 PM

I have a 22oz kilt that I made about 18 months ago. It weighs a ton (maybe more). It was hard to work with, but in subzero temps it's great to wear. For me 12, 14 or 16 oz wool is the easiest to work with. Lighter than that and it's a real problem to work with.

**puffer** · 13th December 08, 09:43 AM

I own 4 "Heavy WT.s" A PG Gordon (22oz),1 "older" Black Watch MOD Regimental. (20oz ?) & 2 'newer" MOD Regimentals (18oz ?).

I am not a kilt maker, so my comments are focused on "wearing" Them compared to my 16oz. 8 yd..

1. Warmth (note - 4 Heavy wt.s are all "high waisted" so that may add to both this & the wt of the overall kilt) All 4 are warmer esp. in relation to "wind". This is esp so with the Gordon & BW. They are also a "mite warm" for some indoor wear & the warmer summer mo.s (living in the PNW I can wear them most of the year)

2. Weight of the overall kilt is noticeable, but not a neg. factor as to comfort.

3. Hang "swish",etc on all of these are great & yes you can tell the difference. The best is the BW.

4. One negative = SITTING, I am not referring to the the way they "fall"over the top of my thighs, BUT the amount of BULK under my "butt". the WPG is like sitting on a somewhat unstable cushion.(not uncomfortable, but a little discerning @ times)

IMHO, if you make a kilt out of anything heavier than 22oz, then I would opt for a 4-5 yd.because of the "bulk" Personally I prefer the 18-20oz range for a "HEAVY WT". A 16oz for a "LIGHT HEAVY WT"

Puffer