Starship maintenance

[beowulf67]

I love and hate to think of Shatner singing anything.

Then you will love and hate this!!!

[george7]

Okay...I'm sure that many of you, like me, are waiting for the new Star Trek movie to come out. They posted the first "teaser" trailer a while back:

Trailer one...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/

...so we get to see very little of the Starship Enterprise...it's a teaser, right? But we do get to see a guy who's welding and actually is getting dirty. This had me thinking...

Some of you guys have been in the Navy, the Air Force, Armored Divisions...when you do maintenance, you get dirty. Ever see them do maintenance in Star Trek? Two guys walk around with a clipboard and a tri-corder stopping here and there, taking readings and nodding their heads. That's it. Ship the size of a city and I swear that I have never seen anybody break a sweat keeping it running. Nobody scraping, nobody painting...what's the deal?

And this new movie is a retro take on Kirk and Spock's early years...remember the problem that they said they were going to have with "Star Trek: Enterprise"? How do you convince people that this is advanced future technology when the viewer already has a cell phone that's smaller than Captain Kirk's communicator? "Spock...can you hear me now?"

Suspend disbelief...suspend disbelief...just enjoy the movie....

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[Standard]

The only person to ever get dirty was Kirk on a planet, and he usually ripped his shirt too.

Reminds me of Tim Allen's character in the movie "Galaxy Quest".

[Galb]

That's why Star Wars is better -- it has a "retrofitted future" look to it. Star Trek looks to clean and polished, as it was, well, built brand new.

Big difference, basically apples to oranges. Let's take a closer look. Star Wars was basically a story of rebels trying to overthrow a government. Their budget was a bit on the restricted side, so they patched and fixed what they could with what they could find. So the rebels always looked like their ships were a bit shoddy. They were a bit rag tag. Now take a look at the Empire. Everything of the Empire was clean, polished, and shiny. They had the budget. They were able to keep it looking sweet and always in good shape.

Now take a look at Star Trek. The Enterprise is funded by Star Fleet, which has a huge budget. Therefore, much like the Empire in Star Wars, they are able to keep things looking nice and neat. They have the resources to fix things properly. They are not a rag-tag bunch of rebels.

That being said, I do recall the Enterprise being messed up on a few occasions and it looked pretty rough for a while there. The crew also got worked over. But, that ship was either blown up or fixed and the crew made it home. They got a new ship, cause, they have an unlimited budget.

Also, the rebels in Star Wars were the bad guys. There, I said it. Let the futuristic flame war begin. :P

[sathor]

Also, the rebels in Star Wars were the bad guys. There, I said it. Let the futuristic flame war begin. :P

Oh, I rather agree. I argued that Beowulf was the real villain.

Look at the Empire. The places they are not at war with seem to be rather peaceful, and unified. But in the episodes 1-3, you see the world before the Empire was chaotic, the Jedi worked to maintain peace, but planets were at war with each other, and the Jedi had to intervene. The Empire met resistance, but it did bring peace. Was Vader all that different than King Arthur? (Either the historic or the mythical) Different than Caesar? Was he taking to the dark side anywhere near that of Caligula?

I once read in a book that darkness and light are the opposite of as we see them, light is chaos, as it is everything combining and confusing to make white light, but darkness is pure and clean. What if the dark side wasn't really the dark side? It's emotions are pure. Not the jumbles of duty to the light side of the force.

And to keep in in the realm of kilts, at least those robot stealing freaks didn't worry about pants. (Nor did the Romans I referenced earlier. Arthur, eh, hard to say, the romanticized version puts him in the middle ages, with tights or armor. The more historical one lived in a wooden fortress, and I think one of the possible regions for there may have had leggings. Or he could have ran around naked like some of the Roman soldiers, or robes, or who knows..)

[beloitpiper]

Oh, I rather agree...Look at the Empire. The places they are not at war with seem to be rather peaceful, and unified.

You know, Iran (for the moment) is peaceful too, but would you call Ahmadinejad a good guy?

Then again, I love rebels and revolutionaries, so I'm a big fan of the Rebel Alliance in Star Wars.

[Howard Clark]

Lots of places have been peaceful through the reign of some strong man dictator. Cuba has had peace for a long time. The people's standard of living ain't that great though.

The third reich brought peace to millions, but millions more were deemed undesirables.

All a matter of point of view. Dividing the world into a dualistic view of good/bad or right/wrong, us/them, is very dangerous. Look how fabulously it has worked so far...

Even if funds and parts are unlimited (and the never are) maintenance requires someone to get dirty. Sometimes very dirty.

[auld argonian]

"Summoned, I take the place that has been prepared for me. I am Grey. I stand between the candle and the star. We are Grey. We stand between the darkness and the light."






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[Highland Logan]

I think this thread has stumbled into a taboo area and the mods should lock it down before someones politics gets a fight going.

Frank

[Carolinascot]

My father and I will probably go see this movie together... afterall, it was he that sparked my interest in Star Trek...
But tell me what do you think of Shatner in Boston Legal?