I know talking about the pants is way off topic for this thread, but I wanted to post the link for some of us that have to wear them to work...The three things I liked the most were the zippered mesh pockets, the pocket loop for sun glasses, and the mag pockets with elastic bands to keep mags or accessories up-right and from banging against each other...I also found the cuffs in the pants comes with a stiffening ring that can be sewed in after sizing to maintain a clean appearance.

Here is a link I found for the pants:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwVcj...eature=related

Chase